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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:48 pm
by Rox
Frankly, I think it's fantastic people aren't just going to their local store like they used to because in a lot of cases those stores would feed you lies, half-truths and hearsay all while charging you too much for the product. The internet providing the information it does has it's downsides, and more so than the vistas a lot of old gear (mostly cheap stuff from the 60s) has increased in value disproportionately to it's quality. Mostly though, it's one of the best things to ever happen for someone looking to buy a guitar.
Good point . Haven't thought of it that way .
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:54 pm
by Daedalus
excellent thread.
does anyone know what necks are on these in terms of profile? are they same necks as Jazzmaster/Jaguars/Strats for example? i can't imagine they would have put extra cost into Jagmasters by making a unique neck design..
mine's a silver flake 25.5".. (modded with duncan jazzmaster quarter pounders)
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:05 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
i would describe it as a mild version of the more modern "C" profile, similar to MIM stratocasters.
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:20 pm
by wadeaminute
These "conversion" necks on the latest version: can we confirm that one could use this neck on a 25.5? body like a Strat or a Tele and convert the scale to 24"? Because that would be cool.
I have a Squier tele thinline 24.75" conversion neck on a different 25.5" body, and it works very well.
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:29 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
i believe it was serfx who put his jagmaster neck on a tele body, and was able to make it work. then i think he put a tele neck on his jagmaster and made it work with no issues?
i'll see if i can confirm this.
EDIT: OH! OH! Great thread
here.
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:18 pm
by lorez
millagurnzie wrote:Good job man, squires get a band rap. i have an early bullet and it feels and plays amazing
the only squire I know to get a bad rep is John and thats if you are talking to Ian.
hotrod, amazing work, love it
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:37 pm
by porterhaus
My experience has been that strats with tremolo bridges do not have enough range in the intonation adjustment to accommodate the 24" "conversion" necks (and have proper intonation). However, a tele (or a hard-tail strat) should work fine because they have about twice the amount of range in the intonation adjustment.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:53 am
by Lucamo
Hotrod, you said Jagmasters have a modern C shape?
Is that referring to the Vista's 25.5 scale, or current ones?
I have a jagmaster I love and want to mod into a beast, but I can't get on with the neck that well.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:35 am
by hotrodperlmutter
i was speaking in terms of the 25.5" versions. the necks are very similar to my MIM stratocaster in profile.
the vista is a vintage jaguar profile, whatever the fuck that is?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:45 am
by Lucamo
Damn the Vista's sound good.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:48 am
by hotrodperlmutter
you should
hear one.
i will hopefully be getting my new pickup configuration into mine soon, and will do a before/after demo. u will b jelluz
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:53 am
by taylornutt
I swapped my 25.5" Jagmaster to Jazzmaster pickups. My first build. I will have to make a Jazzmaster to replace her one day soon.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:08 am
by Lucamo
I am trying to find a black pickguard for cheaps but it seems impossible.
Everyone wants 40+ and wants me to send a tracing. Other than Jeannie, he can do for 43 bucks and a measurement from neck heel to bridge.
TO LOOK LIEK THIS :
I'm considering getting a black pickguard with no bridge pickup hole, and make it a jagmaster....?
But asking Jeannie to do something complicated (OH NOEZ) sounds like a band idea.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:11 am
by hotrodperlmutter
oh fuck yeah, a pickguard with different pickup holes will cost you $90+ from roger the codger
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:12 am
by taylornutt
One of these days I plan on making pickguards, I just don't have the tools at the moment to be able to start.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:20 am
by Lucamo
Yeah it would be swell to have someone on the board who makes things. Didn't someone in the days of lore?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:22 am
by Lucamo
Fuck it I'm just gonna spray paint my guard... Would I have to sand of the clear coat on it to get a successful spray on thur?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:34 am
by cur
wadeaminute wrote:These "conversion" necks on the latest version: can we confirm that one could use this neck on a 25.5? body like a Strat or a Tele and convert the scale to 24"? Because that would be cool.
I have a Squier tele thinline 24.75" conversion neck on a different 25.5" body, and it works very well.
My experience has been that strats with tremolo bridges do not have enough range in the intonation adjustment to accommodate the 24" "conversion" necks (and have proper intonation). However, a tele (or a hard-tail strat) should work fine because they have about twice the amount of range in the intonation adjustment.
Sparky used this
strategy.
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:34 am
by hotrodperlmutter
so, we all know not to assume that tort pickguards would be cut from some one-off, or random sheet, but i did notice that in the case of brown vista jagmaster tort, it's a bit more obvious.
yes, benecol. i'm aware that this would be a similar post as
changing strings, but i was a little drunk when i discovered it and felt it to be such a powerful find. like figuring out your pants have pockets, and you've
put things in them (not in a useful context, by any means). plus i didn't start a new thread.
pics of the shizz:
![Image](http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu99/hotrodperlmutter/1d71325d.jpg)
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:33 am
by stewart
i plan on making my own strings one day.
i'd never have expected to see a matching pattern like that, shows you how things have changed production-wise (unless they're coincidentally sliced from the same piece of material, rather than printed- the chances of finding matching guards like that would be infinitesimal if that were the case).