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avj wrote:For no good reason, I did a quick mockup of what the Squier Jag Bass would look like with the Jazz bridge cover I recently put on my Fender Jag Bass.

RESULTS: In my opinion, not so good.



I do think it looks great on the Fender version, however.

man that bass you are playing is a thing of beauty!!! the chrome bridge cover helps balance all the chrome on the rest of the guitar, which is also why i think it does not work on the squier; not enough chrome.

can you do those mock-ups pretty easily? i've been thinking of adding p-rails to my reverend warhawk HB but i can't decide between cream or black. i know most people would just say black because the pickguard is black. but i am thinking cream to evoke a jazzmaster with the big cream or white pickups that stand out somewhat. anyway, would love to know what that looked like before i did it but have no way to know without actually doing it. i trust you did a mockup before adding your the bridge plate to your jag? which again nice work!!!

soundofseventythree wrote:i also have to respectively disagree that basses are not made to play melodies or high notes. i have a few tunes where the bass carries the melody for part of the tune and then when it comes time to really rock it drops down to fill in the low end. besides a lot of my favorite bands use bass in non-traditional ways

I play like this a fair bit too Really helps with the 3-piece dynamic.

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avj wrote:For no good reason, I did a quick mockup of what the Squier Jag Bass would look like with the Jazz bridge cover I recently put on my Fender Jag Bass.

RESULTS: In my opinion, not so good.



I do think it looks great on the Fender version, however.

man that bass you are playing is a thing of beauty!!! the chrome bridge cover helps balance all the chrome on the rest of the guitar, which is also why i think it does not work on the squier; not enough chrome.

can you do those mock-ups pretty easily? i've been thinking of adding p-rails to my reverend warhawk HB but i can't decide between cream or black. i know most people would just say black because the pickguard is black. but i am thinking cream to evoke a jazzmaster with the big cream or white pickups that stand out somewhat. anyway, would love to know what that looked like before i did it but have no way to know without actually doing it. i trust you did a mockup before adding your the bridge plate to your jag? which again nice work!!!

I agree about the lack of chrome on the Squier. It might look cool if you were able to add the top chrome plate and use a pickguard from a Fender Jag Bass, but I think that'd probably be a huge pain and defeat the purpose of purchasing the Squier version. I was just bored and up late and gave it a shot, but it really doesn't work. I tried to scale it properly based on the remaining space between the edges of the pickup and the cover, matching it to my Jag. This mockup just happened to be particularly easy because I was able to find shots of each of them straight-on.

As for my Jag Bass, I bought the cover without doing a mockup because I had seen it on a few other Jag Basses at the time, including our own ultratwin's -- which I had incidentally seen on another forum and had no idea it was him. I tracked down a bunch of images of '70s Jazz Basses to make sure I had the placement right, then just went for it.

I'm about to head out for the day, but I tried doing a quick one with the only suitable image for the Warhawk I could find (it's the newer II version grabbed from Elderly, close enough), but I'll need to spend a bit more time on it. Also, I only found one image of a straight-on black P-Rails -- no cream.

hotrodperlmutter is the king of quick mockups, so maybe he'll see this and whip one out quickly.

Ankhanu wrote:

soundofseventythree wrote:i also have to respectively disagree that basses are not made to play melodies or high notes. i have a few tunes where the bass carries the melody for part of the tune and then when it comes time to really rock it drops down to fill in the low end. besides a lot of my favorite bands use bass in non-traditional ways

I play like this a fair bit too Really helps with the 3-piece dynamic.

This also pretty fairly describes my bass playing with the project I was most recently playing with, which was kind of a melodic folk-rock deal. This style of playing doesn't really suit everything, and you can't really fault RobOG for his playing style given his current project and it's demand for bowel-shaking low end.

Okay, so my day is fucked because it has started pouring outside, so here's the quick mockup I did.



You can't really make out the detail of the blades but the general idea is there. Maybe someone else can hack something together a little better than I can.

avj wrote:Okay, so my day is fucked because it has started pouring outside, so here's the quick mockup I did.



You can't really make out the detail of the blades but the general idea is there. Maybe someone else can hack something together a little better than I can.

Super cool job, thanks! But I think the cream is probably the way to go here. Or those pickups are just not for my warhawk. I really like Zebra pickups for humbuckers, but I want the versatility of the p-rails. I feel kind of bad modding such an amazing instrument but at the same time I am tempted to make something great even greater (for me anyway).

Thanks again for the mockup, it kind of confirms my suspicions. The only question now is would the cream look any good???

I think the cream would look pretty rad. Reverend has a few guitars that have cream P90s, so you can check them out for how it sort of looks on a Reverend burst. I couldn't find any cream P-Rails photos that were a straight-on shot to use for a mockup.

I think P-Rails are an awesome upgrade for any dual-humbucker guitar. I have a neglected Tele Deluxe reissue that I want to give new life to by putting in either TV Jones FilterTrons or some P-Rails.

avj wrote: I do think it looks great on the Fender version, however.

I honestly dig the look of the guard on the bass with all that nickel and stuff, but had more of a problem with the way the bass felt and sounded in my hands. One of those "Leo couldn't tune up a guitar, but as for designs, he sure enough got 'em right the first time" kind of things.

Yes! Those are even better shots than the ones I saw before.

avj wrote:As for my Jag Bass, I bought the cover without doing a mockup because I had seen it on a few other Jag Basses at the time, including our own ultratwin's -- which I had incidentally seen on another forum and had no idea it was him.

ultratwin wrote:I honestly dig the look of the guard on the bass with all that nickel and stuff, but had more of a problem with the way the bass felt and sounded in my hands. One of those "Leo couldn't tune up a guitar, but as for designs, he sure enough got 'em right the first time" kind of things.

Interesting, so you are saying that you modded the bass not for the looks but for the feel and sound of it.

i think he's saying he just didn't like the bass.

Another Bingo for Stewart.

Now, had Leo Fender made the Jaguar Bass "as it could have been" (go ahead, full in the blank: I vouche for a 30" scale!) in 1962, it probably would have been alright. Oh wait, that's when the Jazz Bass was made...And unlike the current Jag Bass, it's perfect.

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A demo featuring the bass played solo and fingerstyle with various pickup combinations. Nothing fancy.

Neato

Sounds like the Pumpkins

robert(original) wrote:and also. play the low notes, thats what bass players are meant for.

That'd be a stupid rule for a musical instrument though huh, "don't use most of it."
Bass instruments are made to sit within a certain frequency, not pitch. It's why you can play in the same octave as the guitar line on a bass guitar and still be the low-end.

Also I've always thought of the Jazz Bass as the Jazzmaster equivalent of a bass, jazz music associations with their names aside. It's offset, came out the same year as the Jaguar with a similarly "friendly to small hands" neck spec alteration (like he was refining both the Jazzy and P-bass, his flagship products, for playability at the same time), was similarly heaped in chrome (the covers on the early ones, plus ever-present control plate), and the pickups look like skinny bass versions of Jazzmaster pickups.
The P-bass also had a HUGE pickguard that suspended all controls like the Jazzmaster, whereas the controls were suspended from metal plate extensions of the pickguard on both the Jag and JB without any vital stuff actually stuck on the plastic bits.

I've always loved bass melody tbqh

Justyn wrote:I've always loved bass melody tbqh

Yeah me too. Its like when the cello carry the melody in the orchestra.

When I heard about the Jaguar bass I was hoping Fender would use a 30" or 32" neck, seeing as the guitar is a shortscaler. Unfortunately it's not.

Why are there so few shortscale BASSES?!

Lucamo wrote:Why are there so few shortscale BASSES?!

There's loads really, Fender Mustang bass, Squier Bronco Bass, Gibson SG Bass (based on original EBs which were shortscale in both SG and ES styles), Hofner 500/1 Paul McCartney style and countless budget copies

There seem to be almost as many memorable ones all over the price range as there are full-scale basses providing you dig the classic 50s/60s thing.