Progrockabuse wrote:wanna ask you to try your formula five and delay/reverb in front front of the amp drive section. see how good/bad they sound.
Ok so I had a bit of a play earlier Rob and here is what I found. 
1) Amp setting:  Dirty channel, on verge of breakup (gain at about 9 - 10 o'clock I guess)
Pedals:
FN5 - 
Gain at noon. 
Sounds pretty good - but the character of the pedal doesn't 
really come through.  Sounds more like some sort of generic drive.  Had to have the tone knob up full otherwise was a bit muddy. 
DLS - 
Gain at 2 o'clock.  
Sounded better, or at least more distinct than the FN5.  Probably because it is an inherently cleaner pedal.  
Zvex SHO - 
Gain at noon.
Worked really well kicking the amp into overdrive and retained the tone fo the amp for the most part.  I guess adds the tone of the SHO but this works well with the darkness of the amp.  
Carbon Copy -
 short-ish delay set
Compared to on the clean channel it was MUCH more pronounced even with the regen and mix turned down some.  I never use delay other than on the clean so was surprising how different it sounded.  Difficult to get a subtle delay sound when on the drive channel.  
2) Amp setting:  Dirty channel, gain at 1 - 2 o'clock (this is a decent amount of gain)
Pedals (same settings):
FN5 - Quite mushy/muddy.  Character of pedal didn't come through and just masked the lovely amp drive.  
DLS - Again, just got quite muddy, much of the same as above.   
SHO - Worked pretty well, but got quite noisy, still not muddy though.  
CC - MASSIVELY pronounced.  I would say unusable from my point of view.  
Didn't have chance to test the FRV-1 reverb but probably wouldn't use it with this amp anyway.
If I have time I'll have a go at comparing having the delay in the loop.