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lorez wrote: I'm a fuzz lover so my clean is another man's crunch
Yep. And when folks first discover boutique pedals a lot of them get sucked into thinking they are indeed better than a BOSS, EHX etc pedal when they aren't at all.SpaceFace wrote:Thats why I appreciate coming on here and talking to all the builders because none of them here pull your chain or blow smoke up your ass; everyone is honest about stuff. Its crazy how much those skreddy pedals go for. There was one I saw the other day on ebay (probably still there) that was up to over $750 with nearly 15 bids going on it.Earth wrote: I don't believe all this crap about the "magic" ramshead or triangle muff transistors that skreddy and his ilk spew out, its all bullshit.
Sure can build them cheap, Just about any pedal can be built for a fraction of the cost of buying it new although there are exceptions where its just cheaper/more practical to just buy it new.SGJarrod wrote:You can build one for $40 bucks...... maybe less if u buy parts in bulk
I used a MadBeanPedals PCB for mine.....or the two links below have all u need to build one on Vero Board
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main. ... i.jpg.html
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main. ... o.jpg.html
IMO, the Mayo rocks and is a great Muff, but not hundreds of dollars....thats FN insane!
lorez wrote: I'm a fuzz lover so my clean is another man's crunch
I agree with 90% of this, and I make pedals too. What people need to remember is that bootweakers are usually just one guy (or girl) working solo. The build quality and after-sales support (things you take for granted with big companies like EHX or Boss) is only as good or bad as the skill/flakiness of the individual builder. For every Dave Main, Made by Mike, Frantone, you get a Death By Audio or worse. Shonky shit that won't last, pedals with random unrepeatable settings, and companies that vanish overnight (Sustain Punch?!?).Earth wrote:Like I said, there is no such thing as "Better".
Its all subjective opinion, mine too.
My opinion is that EHX make better pedals than every single bootweak pedal company around.
Every pedal I use/need is made by EHX and Boss. That's 3 pedals, a distortion, a muff, and a tuner.
Where would the Melvins be without companies like Boss? No where cause that's all Buzz uses and the Melvins sound sick! We wouldnt have the Cure either as Roberts a huge Boss pedal fan.
Boutique is 100% unnecessary IMO.
Yes, Boss and EHX do make every pedal I need as well, But I prefer the some of the boutique designs...... I mean all boutique pedals are is tweaked versions of what these big companies like Boss and EHX designed originally.... Without those 2 big names alot of bands would not have their sound and we could be in the "stone ages" ...persa...Earth wrote:Every pedal I use/need is made by EHX and Boss. That's 3 pedals, a distortion, a muff, and a tuner.
Where would the Melvins be without companies like Boss? No where cause that's all Buzz uses and the Melvins sound sick! We wouldnt have the Cure either as Roberts a huge Boss pedal fan.
lorez wrote: I'm a fuzz lover so my clean is another man's crunch
I totally agree. I think the whole "boutique" thing is great because if someone can make something good into something even better I am all for it. However sometimes the pricing does get out of hand in my opinion. I understand that its typically 1 or a small handful of people putting time into it which is great but when someone is selling a straight up tubescreamer clone (while claiming some magic component) or something thats a simple build with only a few things to hook up for $300 or more its a bit much.Cody_Pole wrote:The fact that boutique companys put out pedals meant to give you the sound of a discontinued pedal
is great I think where they go wrong is pricing said pedals at a price level that matches the discontinued
pedal it copies.
timhulio wrote:I agree with 90% of this, and I make pedals too. What people need to remember is that bootweakers are usually just one guy (or girl) working solo. The build quality and after-sales support (things you take for granted with big companies like EHX or Boss) is only as good or bad as the skill/flakiness of the individual builder. For every Dave Main, Made by Mike, Frantone, you get a Death By Audio or worse. Shonky shit that won't last, pedals with random unrepeatable settings, and companies that vanish overnight (Sustain Punch?!?).Earth wrote:Like I said, there is no such thing as "Better".
Its all subjective opinion, mine too.
My opinion is that EHX make better pedals than every single bootweak pedal company around.
Every pedal I use/need is made by EHX and Boss. That's 3 pedals, a distortion, a muff, and a tuner.
Where would the Melvins be without companies like Boss? No where cause that's all Buzz uses and the Melvins sound sick! We wouldnt have the Cure either as Roberts a huge Boss pedal fan.
Boutique is 100% unnecessary IMO.
For me the beauty of boutique is to fill a gap in the market for desirable vintage clones at prices guitarists can actually afford. You can argue that there's no need for vintage clones and new stuff can be made to sound just as good, but there's still a demand.
) , They aren't needed (for me). I don't need the services of boutique pedal builders and that is why they are unnecessary to me personally. If there's a pedal that is no longer made and I want one I'll just make it myself. I do understand that most people cant just make a pedal and that it does fill a gap in the market for sure.And that's fair enough Mike!Mike wrote:I don't think there has to be an all or nothing approach here. I don't make pedals because I don't think Boss and Electro-Harmonix make good enough pedals.
I make them because a hobby got out of hand.
Also I'd have to say that personally I'm not really keen on any of the Amplike Overdrive pedals that Boss or EHX, or other mainstream manufacturers make to honest. I think a lot of the best stuff in that ilk has come from the "Boutique" (yuck I hate that word) arena.
