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DD-3's are ace, its hard to dial in a bad sound on one. People say they sound sterile but once you throw it into a band mix with other pedals i doubt anyone would think that, especially 99% of the listening public that know jack about stompboxes.

That's exactly the stuff I'm after Doog - I've got a Behringer DD-400 with something similar but just can't seem to get the timing consistent enough to trust it in a live setting.

I thought maybe having it set by the dials was the way to get a bit more of a consistent speed of stutter. Maybe just a case of practice makes perfect.

well with the recent boss offer of 3 pedals for the price of 2 i've been considering the DD-3 & a RC-3 so I can get the TU-3 for free. But then I also drift towards those lovely pink flangers and get confused so easily

Thom wrote:Once you have made up your mind on what type here are my recommendations:
Analogue: MXR carbon copy

+ 1 for the carbon copy. I have one myself and love it. Absolutely huge delay in a small, convenient box.

Digitech digidelay is a great pedal. It's got both clean sounding digital delay aswell as an awesome "tape mode" which i use all the time. The 4 second looper is fun too. Deerhunter uses these alot, especially on vocals.

drBenway wrote:Deerhunter uses these alot, especially on vocals.

This is relevant to my interests. Any songs in particular?

He said in a interview (posted at the bottom of this page) that he used them on pretty much every vocal track that he ever recorded.

This was done with one:
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I think you can hear it really well in this song too:
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He uses them heavily for looping when doing his solo stuff live:
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Here's the link to the interview:

http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lis ... eerhunter/

Hipster Bible wrote:
>> Favorite Piece of Musical Equipment

I use this thing, a delay pedal called the DigiTech DigiDelay. I use it for everything. If I had to have one [instrument] to make music with, it would be that. I've used it on every vocal I've ever done. It's also the source of a lot of sounds on our record that people didn't realize-- the entire first track ["Intro"] is done on one. That's just my voice; there's no keyboards on the majority of that track. There's one keyboard part at the end, but that's it. All the loops are my voice. And a lot of the sounds on "Octet" are my voice looped through this thing. It has a really cool additive way of making loops. Everybody in Deerhunter has one. Every single person in the band, after seeing me use it, was like, "I have to have one of those." It's the one thing we all have in common.

Empires wrote:I've been looking at the DD-3 lately, the 'hold' function seems to work a bit differently from the later DD-# pedals.

Sounds like it could get some tasty stutters on the go.

I've had 2 DD3's and I could never get the Hold function to work properly.

drBenway wrote:He said in a interview (posted at the bottom of this page) that he used them on pretty much every vocal track that he ever recorded.

Thanks a bunch for putting those together, dude.

I think that's pretty much what we're after. Our singer has decided to get rid of his awful Boss Vocal Performer and this might be just the ticket as he only ever used the delay on it anyway. I've seen one taped to the side of a sound desk at a local venue too, can't be a bad sign.

johnnyseven wrote:I've had 2 DD3's and I could never get the Hold function to work properly.

I'm starting to wonder if the DD-6 is the answer then, maybe the switch is a little more responsive than the Behringer... I find cancelling the stutter the hardest with it. I assumed that with the DD-3, if you set the time really short that the stutter would cancel as soon as you lift your foot off the pedal. It's a question that would only be answered by trying them both side by side, I think. It could be a buy both, flip one scenario.

On the DD-3, you set the recording length (call it X milliseconds) with one of the dials- when you press down the pedal, it records the last X number of milliseconds you played before you pressed the pedal, and repeats that sample while the pedal is held down.

On the DD-6, it records as you hold the pedal down, and releasing it loops the playback of however long you were sampling for. You just tap it to stop playback. WAY more useful.

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That's how the digidelay looper works as well.

Can you add more layers on that one though? It was kind of hard to tell from the video (and yeah, I'm tired)..

Does anyone know any other pedal than the digitech PDS 8000 that allows realtime pitch/time control of the loop? It's my dream delay, but it's damn expensive and rare.

Nah, it's just a one-shot looper; I don't think they'd be able to fit any extra functionality using just one footswitch.

I see.

On the digidelay you can add more layers. The first layer determines the length of the loop. And then you can add as many layers on top of it as you want. To stop the loop you just tap it quickly. The drawback is that you have to be careful when adding short clips not to stop the loop.

The tap tempo is kind of strange though. You hold it down for 4-5 seconds and then it enters tap-mode. It works, but it's not ideal for live situations.

Still, for the price it's a no brainer. I think it beats all boss delays in the similar price range. (Never owned one myself, but played a few of them).

The reverse delay setting is fun, but you can't set it to 100% wet, which would be even better.

Sometimes I mess around with the modulation delay setting with time and repeat set to zero to get a chorus effect.

I have absolutely NO idea of what makes a good chorus sound since I think it's a cheesy effect and would never pay money for it. But it fills my purposes when playing around with some Peter Hook basslines for lulz.

Doog wrote:Nah, it's just a one-shot looper; I don't think they'd be able to fit any extra functionality using just one footswitch.

I think on the DD7 you can add more loops over the top.

Delay Pedal. Affordable and cheap suggestions...

Digital (including multi-mode ones and analog sims settings)

• Line 6 Echo Park (lots of different modes)
  Behringer EM600 (cheaper clone of above?)
  Marshal Echohead (different modes)
  Boss DD5/ DD6 / DD7 (DD7, the latest version includes good loop time, and analog sim)
  Behringer DD600 (rip off of Boss D6?)
  GLX / Beta Aivin / Harley Benson (rip off of Boss DD6)
  Ibanez DE7 (discontinued?)
  Danelectro Dan Echo (discontinued?)
  Guyantone MD2 (discontinued?)

Genuine Analogue

• Behringer VD400
  Behringer VM1 Vintage Time Machine (rip off of Electro-harmonix Deluxe Memory Man)
  DOD FX96