More market research. Who uses true bypass loopers?

wwrrss · Post by **wwrrss** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:35 pm

mrperson wrote:If you could come up with a way to blend in an effects loop via an expression pedal

THIS +1000,000,000,000,000

Post by **Doog** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:37 pm

Piece-o-piss, it'll just require an expression pedal with the correct pot value.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:39 pm

Doog wrote:Piece-o-piss, it'll just require an expression pedal with the correct pot value.

Well not really. If don't do buffering and volume recovery it will work like shit and make both clean, mixed and wet signal quieter than their original forms.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:47 pm

I meant just the "replacing a pot with an expression pedal" bit, I wouldn't know where to start with the rest of it.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:52 pm

I really hate blend circuits.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:06 pm

Mike wrote:Actually that's a good idea - I often get people asking about wet/dry blends on FX loops - do it.

100% Dry to 100% Wet via a Pot so you can use it as a standard TB loop with the pot dimed will be very useful to a look of people I think.

YES

I like the idea of being able to add a bit of modulation effect to my sound, inparticular flanger or phaser, without it overpowering it. It would be even more useful if the blend could be turned off when using other effects such as tremolo.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:50 pm

yeah I've wanted a mixer type pedal for a long time.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:19 pm

I use a two-loop one religiously.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:33 pm

I've been considering making an A/B/Bypass loop pedal for a while, but I'm concerned about losing teh feedbacks from having both dirt pedals on at the same time that I haven't done it yet. I would use one at least to try it out, but then again I wouldn't be buying one.

aen · Post by **aen** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:53 pm

I have some. I used to use them a lot, but my current set doesnt demand it, so I end up jst filling the board with more shit that I dont use live but looks fun.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:10 am

Actually, now that I think about it, instead of doing a base single bypass loop, double the loop into two, add another switch to A/B them, and sell those. You can switch between two whole chains, or bypass the whole set if you wanted. Or, you could just use one chain. At least it would make it a somewhat unique product. That's why I'm building my own, I can't find one that does exactly that, that's cheap enough to justify not building it myself.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:59 am

Mike wrote:Actually that's a good idea - I often get people asking about wet/dry blends on FX loops - do it.

100% Dry to 100% Wet via a Pot so you can use it as a standard TB loop with the pot dimed will be very useful to a look of people I think.

Yep, add in a switchable Klon buffer and you have all the necessary mojo to tame massive pedalboards.

Pens wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, instead of doing a base single bypass loop, double the loop into two, add another switch to A/B them, and sell those. You can switch between two whole chains, or bypass the whole set if you wanted. Or, you could just use one chain. At least it would make it a somewhat unique product. That's why I'm building my own, I can't find one that does exactly that, that's cheap enough to justify not building it myself.

Is that not a Boss LS-2?

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:09 am

BacchusPaul wrote:
Mike wrote:Actually that's a good idea - I often get people asking about wet/dry blends on FX loops - do it.

100% Dry to 100% Wet via a Pot so you can use it as a standard TB loop with the pot dimed will be very useful to a look of people I think.
Yep, add in a switchable Klon buffer and you have all the necessary mojo to tame massive pedalboards.

Pens wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, instead of doing a base single bypass loop, double the loop into two, add another switch to A/B them, and sell those. You can switch between two whole chains, or bypass the whole set if you wanted. Or, you could just use one chain. At least it would make it a somewhat unique product. That's why I'm building my own, I can't find one that does exactly that, that's cheap enough to justify not building it myself.
Is that not a Boss LS-2?

LS-2 is overcomplicated shit. I want two stompers, one stomper does the A/B, other stomp is bypass. I've looked at the LS-2 and thought "How the fuck do you use this?" I switch between two different dirt boxes and then clean within the same song with sudden changes, I cannot sit there and try to remember what mode the stupid pedal is in when I'm rawking out. I'm a dumb.

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:02 am

A number of DIY kids in Korea actually earn rent by building A/B switchers and true bypass loopers and selling them for the equivalent of $50 a pop.

Funny how local company Amsterdam Cream (I know, few names are more LEL worthy) came along and actually sold out their stock early when their $110 units hit the stores. I have a feeling that the A/B switch proved attractive.

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ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:08 am

ultratwin wrote:

What does this do? And how might I go about getting it? It's a cutie.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:11 am

I see it's a fuzz from the video on the website, and a really, really nice one, too.

How does the price translate into dollars?

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:34 am

Love the multi colour screen printing. Have to get into that sometime.

Bypass box with a blend should be pretty do-able with a few buffers (probably just one TL074). I'll give it a little think and decide if it's worth the build time.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:28 pm

Tell yers what, I'd love a cheap-ish octave fuzz in one of those TINY Amsterdam Cream boxes, like the Malekko Omicron Fuzz but with just the single mode and no buggering about with internal switches. And a single knob.

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:09 pm

Thems boxes really cute, eh?

ekwatts wrote:Tell yers what, I'd love a cheap-ish octave fuzz in one of those TINY Amsterdam Cream boxes, like the Malekko Omicron Fuzz but with just the single mode and no buggering about with internal switches. And a single knob.

Shame it's the most expensive pedal in the Amsterdam Cream lot. Anyway, next time I'm in central Seoul (maybe this Saturday or the next) I could pick one up at a shop I know for MAP, which seems to be the same at each vendor I've checked (KRW153,000/$130 ~ 83GBP). If you're interested, I could ship it to the UK much cheaper than from here when I'm in the States next month (around Oct.13~15), for about $15.

I wish I had time to could translate this www.freebud.co.kr video word for word, despite the incredible fuzz toanz, by the end of the pedal test the guys simply can't stand how loud the pedal is. They also don't know how a Fender Jaguar works.

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