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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:52 am
by jagsonic
does anyone know, if the neck is fixed with 3 or 4 screws?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:07 am
by ekwatts
Fucksake, what do you people expect from a Squier? Of course it doesn't have fucking micro-tilt adjustment. IT'S A FUCKING SQUIER.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:26 am
by jagsonic
is it necessary to have a micro-tilt adjustment for a 3-screw-backplate?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:00 am
by Mike
Mages wrote:ah so these are literally the exact same specs as the regular VM strat, they just look cooler. :\ differences between this and a real 70s strat: tuners, truss rod, frets, radius, micro-tilt, string spacing, bridge block, saddles, body wood. so........ pretty much not a 70s strat at all.

oh well, if they have a good neck they should still be cool. does anyone know what the necks are like on these VM guitars?
I couldn't find the specs published anywhere. Did you?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:01 am
by Mike
jagsonic wrote:is it necessary to have a micro-tilt adjustment for a 3-screw-backplate?
3 screws + micro tilt was what 70s strats/teles were all about. Lots of people hate it, I really like it.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:06 pm
by NickS
JJLipton wrote:The blackmore one looks awesome
Didn't he take out the middle pickup?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:39 pm
by ekwatts
NickS wrote:
JJLipton wrote:The blackmore one looks awesome
Didn't he take out the middle pickup?
Yes.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:46 pm
by Mages
Mike wrote:
Mages wrote:ah so these are literally the exact same specs as the regular VM strat, they just look cooler. :\ differences between this and a real 70s strat: tuners, truss rod, frets, radius, micro-tilt, string spacing, bridge block, saddles, body wood. so........ pretty much not a 70s strat at all.

oh well, if they have a good neck they should still be cool. does anyone know what the necks are like on these VM guitars?
I couldn't find the specs published anywhere. Did you?
for some reason they don't give you them on the page. but apparently they put them in the database for the guitar comparison function on the site. so compare it with another guitar on the site and it will show you the specs side by side with another model.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:53 pm
by Mike
I'll wait until they're on the site in case it's some copy and paste shit (Fender have previous for this)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:01 pm
by Mages
yeah, that definitely is a possibility.

here are some screen captures if people want to try to deduce the specs themselves.

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:17 pm
by Gabriel
The lack of a bullet truss rod makes me sad. Still a very cool guitar though.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:53 pm
by honeyiscool
mrperson wrote:The lack of a bullet truss rod makes me sad. Still a very cool guitar though.
I'm fine with Squier not including an uncut penis on their guitars. They never get that last bit of detail down anyway.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:02 pm
by ekwatts
These aren't meant to be exact reproductions, though. You have Fender Custom Shop for that. These are guitars that just look like their namesakes. That's the point. Harping on about "accuracy" is kind of stupid and unrealistic.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:10 pm
by lorez
ekwatts wrote:These aren't meant to be exact reproductions, though. You have Fender Custom Shop for that. These are guitars that just look like their namesakes. That's the point. Harping on about "accuracy" is kind of stupid and unrealistic.
That's why they are called vintage modified

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:07 am
by Mages
I understand they aren't meant to be exact reproductions, but if the specs truly are identical to the standard VM strat I wouldn't describe it as any sort of reproduction at all. it merely looks kind of similar. which is kind of neat I suppose but if you like 70s strats, this is probably gonna miss the mark for you. I mean what makes a 70s strat? I would say it's a chunky maple neck, 3-bolt neckplate w/ micro-tilt, and that mazak bridge with the cast saddles. you have to have at least one of those things or I can't see how you can really call it a 70s strat.

but anyway, we shall see. like I said before if it has a decent neck I would still be interested.

some interesting discussion here: http://www.squier-talk.com/forum/squier ... trats.html

they mention that one of them is called "SQ" which is what the 80s MIJ squier 70s reissues were called. pat has one I think. they were indeed 3-bolt, micro-tilt, bullet tr.

http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/thesqpage.htm

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:04 pm
by honeyiscool
None of the Squiers nail anything. The CV series doesn't have a single thing in the 7.25" radius.

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:22 pm
by ekwatts
honeyiscool wrote:None of the Squiers nail anything. The CV series doesn't have a single thing in the 7.25" radius.
That's because they're Squiers, not vintage Fenders nor accurate reproductions. They look quite alot like the guitars they're meant to echo, though, which is really the point.

I might have said this before.

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:26 pm
by lorez
ekwatts wrote:
honeyiscool wrote:None of the Squiers nail anything. The CV series doesn't have a single thing in the 7.25" radius.
That's because they're Squiers, not vintage Fenders nor accurate reproductions. They look quite alot like the guitars they're meant to echo, though, which is really the point.

I might have said this before.
Eye that's why the V stands for Vibe.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:03 pm
by stilwel
Yep...the B/B strat looks killer.

The bullet truss-rods tend to shear off more than the standard truss-rod at the headstock that they used here. It may not look period-correct, but it's actually an upgrade to make the guitar more reliable.

If the neck is anywhere near the quality of my Squier JM Jazzy, then this guitar will be totally cool.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:13 pm
by 71Smallbox
Mages wrote:I understand they aren't meant to be exact reproductions, but if the specs truly are identical to the standard VM strat I wouldn't describe it as any sort of reproduction at all. it merely looks kind of similar. which is kind of neat I suppose but if you like 70s strats, this is probably gonna miss the mark for you. I mean what makes a 70s strat? I would say it's a chunky maple neck, 3-bolt neckplate w/ micro-tilt, and that mazak bridge with the cast saddles. you have to have at least one of those things or I can't see how you can really call it a 70s strat.

but anyway, we shall see. like I said before if it has a decent neck I would still be interested.

some interesting discussion here: http://www.squier-talk.com/forum/squier ... trats.html

they mention that one of them is called "SQ" which is what the 80s MIJ squier 70s reissues were called. pat has one I think. they were indeed 3-bolt, micro-tilt, bullet tr.

http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/thesqpage.htm
I have one of those SQ MIJ Squier Strats, its awesome, micro-tilt, alnico PU's, big head stock, just like the 70's just says Squier on it. These still look cool and are an awesome option. If you're that picky about deets, slap an amber switch tip on there.