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God I really hope these are real! I will seriously buy the white jag and the green jazzmaster!

wow if this is a joke, it's almost like the joke is on them because we would all be handing them our money hand over fist were they real.




EDIT: I mean... assuming it were fender pranking us. for some reason I was thinking to be able to pull off this good of a hoax it would have to be.

These kind of contradict something i read in the Squier Electrics book, the author was saying since the 90's it has been Squier's long term objective to offer something different to Fender. But in view of the CV series they have obviously changed that policy.

Needless to say, i will buy one of both and change the decal...

And some binding too Fran.

Johnny Noir wrote:from OSG

OK Johnny, it's April the 2nd now. No more April fools. Is this for real?

laterallateral wrote:Traditional trem placement whaaaaaaat? Makes me almost want to call cruel, cruel shenanigans but the, dreamer in me refuse to wake up.

That's why I don't buy it. Even the 50th Anniversary Fender Jaguars moved up the Trems. I will wait and see.

It seems pretty implausable that these are fake. There are details that are so small that would have been over looked if it were just a hoax, like the Duncan Designed print on every pickup cover and the bridge is the same on all of them. The pictures are definitely of real guitars.

Sonic Blue Jazzo with Warmoth baritone neck and TV Jones Classics, here we come.

going to neuter myself if these arent real. it would be hard not to buy a jag and jazz

The photo of the Jazzmasters is the same background used here:



Look at the triangle mortar near the upper horn on the Oly White JM, then same place near the upper horn on the creamish one above. It's also hidden behind the white Mustang's neck.

I would be horribly shocked if these were real, based solely on the trem placement. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some folks at Fender having some April Fool's fun meant to stay inside the company.

yeah, that's what I thought too. based on the background and general completeness of the guitars, it would have to be by fender if it was a hoax.

I think there is some reason to believe it might be real though. the OP in the offset thread posted again:

Hi! Original poster here. 5 pages in 12 hours. Impressive.

As for your concerns:
-I haven't registered here before because I've never owned an offset. Lurking was good enough. I am surrounded by friends with Jazzmasters (not an exaggeration) and someday I'll get off my butt and get one.

-As for April Fool's you'll notice I signed up on Sat but didn't post until early Mon AM so to avoid that issue.

-As for the photographs' legitimacy they come from the same place as all FMIC product images appear. Its a place they are available for all divisions for internal use. There are a lot of FMIC employees who have access to them. These photos are cropped and have had the Exif data removed. The bridge detail photo was from a full guitar photo with a resolution of 5562x1880. There are images like that for every model and color, for every FMIC instrument, every division.

-Photos are taken months in advance for brochure print deadlines, FMIC websites, and making sure online retailers have the gear images the day they are allowed to list them. Sometimes these photos may have early pre-mass production models. These are photos are for print and web. I doubt these guitars were even set-up. Is there Photoshopping going on? Sure, why wouldn't there be?

-From my experience I've never seen any gear this far along not become a regular production model. Once Fender busts out that damned brickwall for the Squier models its just a matter of time. The VM Jazzmaster (the non-trem, maple board one) photos appeared internally in September 2010 and the guitars were released NAMM 2011.
Like I said, don't bug your Fender dealers quite yet.

As for me, that CAR JM is looking pretty good.

so I guess he works for fender? if so, very odd that he decided to straight up leak it this like this. in his OP he says he was surprised they hadn't been leaked already, which is just like, huh? I've never heard of any guitar getting leaked by a fender employee. not ever. and definitely not the marketing shots like this. it's usually that data sheet lookin thing that gets sent out to retailers, and then they're the ones that leak it, it doesn't come from fender. odd.

as for the correct trem placement my guess is that they are trying to position this feature as the budget option. something like with the 6-point and 2-point strat trems. the 2-point one is the high-end one (sort of). well if they introduce the squiers with the vintage trem placement then the classic player style can be positioned as the high-end variety.

photo was from a full guitar photo with a resolution of 5562x1880. There are images like that for every model and color, for every FMIC instrument, every division.

me and james are digging the fucking ditch right now to jump in so we can roll around in our graves

Good catch, Mages. I didn't have the patience to read the entire thread.

Mages wrote:as for the correct trem placement my guess is that they are trying to position this feature as the budget option. something like with the 6-point and 2-point strat trems. the 2-point one is the high-end one (sort of). well if they introduce the squiers with the vintage trem placement then the classic player style can be positioned as the high-end variety.

This is so God-damned crazy that I think I'm completely on board with it. Fix a "broken" vintage design, equip all your modern production models with it, then offer that same "broken" design as the budget option. That seems like complete insanity to most of us, but again, I genuinely think you're onto something there.

Hmmm...vistavision ,the person who posted those photos on OGF just joined that forum this past Saturday and his only 2 posts are both in the thread he started about these guitars. He says:


"As for the photographs' legitimacy they come from the same place as all FMIC product images appear. Its a place they are available for all divisions for internal use. There are a lot of FMIC employees who have access to them"

But he doesn't explain how he got access to them. Here are his full post below.


"by vistavision » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:50 am

These pictures have been floating around for about a month or so and I figured they would already be up here.
No idea of MSRP, MAP, or announcement/release date. Fender is probably aiming for sometime between late-Spring and Summer NAMM so don't start bugging your Fender dealer yet. I doubt most of the reps know. I would hazard a guess that they will be around the same price as the Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster. It's all conjecture, really. At least they seem more Vintage than Modified.

bridge detail. Mastery will probably have to add a 3rd shift!"



"Postby vistavision » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:12 pm

Hi! Original poster here. 5 pages in 12 hours. Impressive.

As for your concerns:
-I haven't registered here before because I've never owned an offset. Lurking was good enough. I am surrounded by friends with Jazzmasters (not an exaggeration) and someday I'll get off my butt and get one.

-As for April Fool's you'll notice I signed up on Sat but didn't post until early Mon AM so to avoid that issue.

-As for the photographs' legitimacy they come from the same place as all FMIC product images appear. Its a place they are available for all divisions for internal use. There are a lot of FMIC employees who have access to them. These photos are cropped and have had the Exif data removed. The bridge detail photo was from a full guitar photo with a resolution of 5562x1880. There are images like that for every model and color, for every FMIC instrument, every division.

-Photos are taken months in advance for brochure print deadlines, FMIC websites, and making sure online retailers have the gear images the day they are allowed to list them. Sometimes these photos may have early pre-mass production models. These are photos are for print and web. I doubt these guitars were even set-up. Is there Photoshopping going on? Sure, why wouldn't there be?

-From my experience I've never seen any gear this far along not become a regular production model. Once Fender busts out that damned brickwall for the Squier models its just a matter of time. The VM Jazzmaster (the non-trem, maple board one) photos appeared internally in September 2010 and the guitars were released NAMM 2011.
Like I said, don't bug your Fender dealers quite yet.

As for me, that CAR JM is looking pretty good."

Fran wrote:These kind of contradict something i read in the Squier Electrics book, the author was saying since the 90's it has been Squier's long term objective to offer something different to Fender. But in view of the CV series they have obviously changed that policy.

Needless to say, i will buy one of both and change the decal...

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Seriously, I would be gutted if these weren't real.

Oh shit. Strange they'd be VM series, I don't see much in the way of the usual 'modifications'.

Surf green jag has given me a mildly twitching semi.

Oh shit. Strange they'd be VM series, I don't see much in the way of the usual 'modifications'.

Surf green jag has given me a mildly twitching semi.

If and it's a big if, these pics were up on the fender web server then they would be easy for anyone to find.

Similar thing happened to Ibanez with the 25th anniversary RGs this year. Simply by changing a few characters in the pictures URL someone discovered the 2nd and 3rd release which were planed through the year (staggered release of anniversary models, website was pre built, but not all content was public- unless you went digging)

anyone notice that trem has no trem lock on the jazzy just like the recent squier ones?



i'm starting to get a bit giddy about these

If it is an april fool they're sorely lacking imagination. Why go to all that trouble to prank approximately 53 guitar nerds? They'd at least need to make something of the calibre of the Gibson Hendrix signature strat to pull the wool over these eyes...

Definitely real.