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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:13 pm
by lorez
Fran wrote:
laterallateral wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Novation-Supern ... 2439726%26

This could still go for pretty low. I mean, probably not but who knows?
I looked at some Novation stuff earlier.
To be honest, my limit is around £200, I know it isn't much and that is why the M-Audio caught my eye.
i'd say the M-Audio would be up your street but don't give up on the computer with a controller. There are a lot of great free VSTs and also Computer Music mag comes each month with a dvd full of great instruments, effects and samples.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:48 pm
by Mages
yeah I agree a controller keyboard and some VSTs is a great way to dip your toe in. it's
worth mentioning that yamaha DX21 or 27, or casio CZ-1000 cost the same as a controller
and can be plugged into your computer just the same if you have a MIDI interface.

ok, I just want to give an example of what is possible with these old 80s keyboards I
mentioned before because I really think this kind of thing is in the shortscale spirit of
making the best of dirt cheap gear.

http://www.systenova.com/nacho/demos/
http://soundcloud.com/nacho-marty

this guy uses entirely cheap gear like this and his stuff is fucking amazing. you really don't
need all this rarified analog gear to make cool music. a lot of the classic synth sounds are
not actually analog but early digital synthesis.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:19 pm
by Fran
Thanks Mages. Some ace sounds there, totally agree.
My head is spinning with the options a bit at the moment, its like asking about a Jaguar bridge replacement :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:31 pm
by ekwatts
Fran wrote:Thanks Mages. Some ace sounds there, totally agree.
My head is spinning with the options a bit at the moment, its like asking about a Jaguar bridge replacement :lol:
Has somebody suggested the Korg Triton, then? That'd be the equivalent of the Mastery Bridge, I think. Unnecessary and overblown but essentially good at what it does.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:54 am
by lorez
Fran wrote:Thanks Mages. Some ace sounds there, totally agree.
My head is spinning with the options a bit at the moment, its like asking about a Jaguar bridge replacement :lol:
i was in that place last year and I wish I'd listened to aen as I think I wouldn't of bought a synth first then discovered ableton/vsts. take it slowly, get your computer out and buy a copy of Computer Music for the great vst's they bundle. take as much time making late 80s/early 90s classics then get into your groove. the great thing about ableton is that it works great with samples and beats matches/time warps instantly so taking out some of the issues you would have to sort out with other daws. sorry to go on about it but I find the clips/session mode great for constructing songs and ideas

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:17 am
by dezb1
benecol wrote:Made the mistake of watching this the other day, and if I hadn't just bought the SG, I'd be getting my name on a waiting list...

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I had some serious synth envy after watching that earlier in the week.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:22 am
by dezb1
lorez wrote:
Fran wrote:Thanks Mages. Some ace sounds there, totally agree.
My head is spinning with the options a bit at the moment, its like asking about a Jaguar bridge replacement :lol:
i was in that place last year and I wish I'd listened to aen as I think I wouldn't of bought a synth first then discovered ableton/vsts. take it slowly, get your computer out and buy a copy of Computer Music for the great vst's they bundle. take as much time making late 80s/early 90s classics then get into your groove. the great thing about ableton is that it works great with samples and beats matches/time warps instantly so taking out some of the issues you would have to sort out with other daws. sorry to go on about it but I find the clips/session mode great for constructing songs and ideas

I would recommend getting computer music as well I use several of the free synths they give away, dominator, cm 202, and rhino are worth plenty of cash and you get them and more for a fiver.