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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 pm
by Thom
gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.
Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.
I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:41 pm
by Awstin
Lock that shit! Buy a Jaguar for a tremolo. haha nah thats cool though, a mustang trem setup properly works awesomely. I saw mad mike doing dive bombs on his. It just takes a lot of work.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:31 am
by jagsonic
congrats to your mustang!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:55 pm
by Golden_Sonic
Well, who is Mad Mike? I've seen that some peolpe talk about him here on shortscale: he must be a genius in setting mustangs/offset guitars...

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:41 pm
by Awstin
Golden_Sonic wrote:Well, who is Mad Mike? I've seen that some peolpe talk about him here on shortscale: he must be a genius in setting mustangs/offset guitars...
He was a member on the Jag-Stang forum. I don't know if he has an account on ss or osg. His jagstang even had emgs in it if I remember right. He did something with luvricating the nut, springs, saddles, and the spring tension.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:44 pm
by Mo Law-ka
[youtube][/youtube]

Other videos on his channel are helpful too.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:52 pm
by Awstin
Mo Rawka wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Other videos on his channel are helpful too.
Fixed.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:23 pm
by weeping_moon
Thom wrote:
gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.
Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.
I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.
i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:31 pm
by theshadowofseattle
weeping_moon wrote:makes a stang go waaaaang.
STANG WANG

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:04 am
by gusman2x
weeping_moon wrote:
Thom wrote:
gusman2x wrote: Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.
I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.
i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?
For sure i did, but i never really find that trems are set up well in the shop. I also understood that most players do not use the mustang trems due to their perceived short comings. But now i want to try.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:42 pm
by weeping_moon
gusman2x wrote:
weeping_moon wrote:
Thom wrote: I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.
i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?
For sure i did, but i never really find that trems are set up well in the shop. I also understood that most players do not use the mustang trems due to their perceived short comings. But now i want to try.
I can tell you. Anyway for my playing i dont need the regular mustang system. Fuch i even play the american mustang.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:06 pm
by paul_
Guitars have to be set-up on a case by case basis, no two are exactly alike and even different tolerances/wear on metal bits and who installed them, and how, make a difference. Then there's and personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.
A lot of Mustangs and Jag-Stangs don't stay in tune with plenty of researched attention given to their setup. The trems on most MIM/Squier Strats I've tinkered with wouldn't setup right for me.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:15 pm
by weeping_moon
paul_ wrote:Guitars have to be set-up on a case by case basis, no two are exactly alike and even different tolerances/wear on metal bits and who installed them, and how, make a difference. Then there's and personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.
A lot of Mustangs and Jag-Stangs don't stay in tune with plenty of researched attention given to their setup. The trems on most MIM/Squier Strats I've tinkered with wouldn't setup right for me.
This! personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.

But i cant agree, mustangs and jag-stangs stays in tune at least for me. i have 3 with the same original setup and it holds for me.

But then i agree most Squiers arent for me playing without doing something to them. Tuners or bridge.

And i dont like most of the stock pickups (mustang, jag-stang, strat or whatever) so i just change them.

weeping_moon just said that!

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:32 pm
by Golden_Sonic
So I've finally tried to set up the dynamic vibrato of my Squier Mustang with the help of a friend, without success; that's what we've done:
1) We have lowered the bridge and raised all the saddles in order to obtain a low action (NOTE: now the strings don't touch the two edges of the bridge);
2) We have removed the plate-bridge to check what kind of tension the springs had: they were already placed on the hardest tension, as Fakier suggested me;
3) We have lowered a little bit the wraparaound/stopbar/cylindrical bar (you know, that part of the bridge through which the strings go);
4) last, we have lubrificated the nut with graphite.
It seems that all this works have been useless: the guitar goes out of tune after a short time you play it. What should I do now? Any suggestion?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:00 pm
by jonl
Sweet!
Sonic blue is awesome