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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:10 pm
by Pens
Doog wrote:
PenPen wrote:
"Gate" means that it only allows a certain portion of the signal through. Sometimes, if you are building a pedal and misbias a gain stage, you will get what is called "gating", where only certain voltage swings come through. AKA "farting" or "burping".
Yeah, that! Farting and burping!

The gate control on the Ultra Fuzz I used to have (similar to the Fuzz Factory) could be set so it'd kill hum/noise when you're not playing. Crank it too high, and it just attenuated the volume.. but in the middle, you got some great squelchy stuff happening, with spluttering sustain as the note died off..

THAT'S what I'm after.
Sounds more like a pot on the base pin bias to cause the transistor to go unbiased so that noise voltages didn't turn the part on. Let me think for a bit on how that could be done.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:11 pm
by jcyphe
This thread is Hialrious.

Bill Gates?

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:12 pm
by Pens
jcyphe wrote:This thread is Hialrious.

Bill Gates?
Master Bates.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:14 pm
by Fran
Gareth Gates

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:15 pm
by jcyphe
Cemeterey Gates

Two non-sensical Morrissey refrences in one Thread FTW!

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:16 pm
by Fran
jcyphe wins again :x

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:36 am
by SickenedEmotions99
PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.
I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:21 am
by James
Actually, it sounds like quite a common thing for guitarist to expect it to do more than it does.

I think it's quite likely you were mis-using it. the same as i did with that hypen just there.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:12 am
by Pens
SickenedEmotions99 wrote:
PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.
I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.
I just don't care enough to argue with you.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:03 am
by Sloan
d00dz.

4 real. that BOSS noise gate is like standard issue metal up your ass equipmentz. i mean c'mon, WANYE FUCKING GODDAMNED STATIC USES ONE SO IT MUST BE TR00 M37^Lz.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:02 pm
by Doog
SickenedEmotions99 wrote:
PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.
I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.
Don't you need to put it after the gain stage to make it work, though? Meanin an FX loop if you're using amp distortion?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:48 pm
by noirengineer
zvex's gate control is not a gate at all..
it's like a feedback circuit