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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:19 pm
by euan
Have you done it yet?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:21 pm
by ekwatts
Yeah, it's been five minutes since I asked.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:47 pm
by Pens
I had a minute away from work.

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Should be clear I hope. INPUT and OUTPUT are the normal in/out, guitar in/amp out. Send goes to the input of the pedal to be bypassed and return is the out of the pedal. LED will light when the effect is going to the pedal. If you are using a metal box this is everything, if you are using a plastic box the jack sleeves have to also be wired to the ground point. Holler if something doesn't make sense.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:50 pm
by euan
PenPen wrote:if you are using a plastic box the jack sleeves have to also be wired to the ground point.
Or if you are using a metal box and Cliff style jacks as are more common in the UK.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:53 pm
by Pens
Really? Switchcraft metal jacks are the norm here. Ok, yes, if you are using jacks that are made out of plastic you will also need to wire the sleeves to the ground point. The usual convention for me is to use metal jacks and cases, so the jacks ground through the casing.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:54 pm
by ekwatts
Truly awesome, thanks PenPen. I bought a plastic box for now because the metal ones were something like £8, and I didn't want to go drilling crazy-ass skewed holes into an £8 piece of metal if I didn't know what I was doing, but the plastic box seems pretty sturdy really, so I might end up using it anyway. I got a big lucky bag of resistors too, but the identification was all in german so I'll have to just bugger about and see which ones make the LED hurt my eyes. All I need to do now is order in the LED, jack inputs and footswitch, because Maplins only stock those on the internet store.

If I manage to make a good go of this, I'm gonna be so amazingly chuffed.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:58 pm
by Pens
NP. Yeah, the only thing you'll have to mentally add to that diagram then is attaching wires to the sleeve lugs and running them all to the same ground point as indicated as GND. Also, make sure you get a 3PDT stomper, it'll have 9 lugs total if you weren't aware of that. If you hit any problems during construction just say so.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:59 pm
by euan
Yeah, Switchcraft=expensive here. It goes back to the days of Marshall copying the Bassman and all the parts that they had to make different because importing American stuff cost too much. They used the Cliff jacks then and still do I believe.

I kinda like them over the Switchcraft style, you can do a little more with them with all the contacts are closed when there isn't a jack open.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:04 am
by ekwatts
One thing: What sort of wire should I use? Can you find it on the Maplin site for me? I'm not even sure where to begin: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Sub_Category.as ... -2&doy=9m3

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:11 am
by euan
I can never remember what the correct gauge is, however if you put it in my hand I'd be able to tell you. I see that Maplin sells the Switchcraft style now too. Back when I used to get stuff from there they never did.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:22 am
by Pens
That site sucks. I don't know where to look for it, with all of the limey codes and metric and such. What you are after is either 22 or 20 gauge (in that order), solid OR stranded core, doesn't matter.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:41 am
by ekwatts
How about this: Image

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:57 am
by euan
That is resistance wire, you don't want that.

Maybe: http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ITA ... y=9m3#spec

It's stranded wire. 16 strands, should do you ok.

Do you have a Maplin near you? You could just go in and give the wire a feel.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:31 am
by ekwatts
euan wrote:That is resistance wire, you don't want that.

Maybe: http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ITA ... y=9m3#spec

It's stranded wire. 16 strands, should do you ok.

Do you have a Maplin near you? You could just go in and give the wire a feel.
Awesome. I'll drop by tomorrow after college.