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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:37 pm
by More Cowbell
euan wrote:What are the George Ls like to put together?
I'm not sure if I trust the system. I like seeing solder joints and heatshrink, and knowing I have a good connection between the cable and the jack.
They are the shit, easy as hell, I've been using George L's for about 3 years, I use the same guitar cable and never had a problem, never had to reconnect it, and I've played alot of shows with it, no tears in the insulation or anything. When I first got it, I A/B'd it with the old guitar cable and noticed a slight high end gain and clarity to my tone.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:43 pm
by Mike
Yeah, they have a much better high end retainingness (that's a fucking word alright) than other patch leads. They're easy as pie to do and to fix if necessary (only had one go in 18 months), and if you switch stuff around like I do they're a godsend. You just have to learn the correct method - I find using a sharp kitchen knife to cut the cable is better than wire cutters as you don't squash the end.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:45 pm
by euan
Hmm, I just look at the expense and think that I can buy myself some Klotz and Neutrik connectors for the same price and spend the extra few minutes on each cable.
In all the applications that I've used Neutrik I know that they would probably survive a nuclear war can not worry about shafts breaking off in jacks.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:47 pm
by Mike
Shafts breaking off in jacks? What are you, an Elephant?
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:51 pm
by More Cowbell
I bet Hurb could do it, have you seen that dude?
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:51 pm
by euan
Mike wrote:Shafts breaking off in jacks? What are you, an Elephant?
It's happened before. A combination of cheap guitar cable that I had borrowed due to one of mine not working and left handed guitar going into a guitar stand shaped for right handers.
I had left the jack in it snapped when it caught on one of the arms. My own fault really, but it wouldn't have happened if it was Neutrik
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:56 pm
by euan
George Ls would have one benefit over Klotz guitar cable as the cable is thinner, bringing the obvious advantage in the patch cables. I'm thinking about this a lot at the moment because I need to make new guitar, patch and some longer power cables.
I might try some of the thinner Klotz cable as some patch cable at the same time and AB test it.
Gotta love my brand loyalty to Klotz and Neutrik. All my microphone cable is Klotz with Neutrik XLR at the other end.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:57 pm
by Hurb
More Cowbell wrote:I bet Hurb could do it, have you seen that dude?
The incredible Hurb!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:57 pm
by Mike
I dunno - sounds like a lot of money to me. Klotz and Neutrik are very pricey.
I play any guitar cables I can that are fixeable.
How many FX pedals do you have?
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:01 pm
by James
Mike wrote:Yeah, they have a much better high end retainingness (that's a fucking word alright) than other patch leads. They're easy as pie to do and to fix if necessary (only had one go in 18 months), and if you switch stuff around like I do they're a godsend. You just have to learn the correct method - I find using a sharp kitchen knife to cut the cable is better than wire cutters as you don't squash the end.
retention
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:01 pm
by luke
I once had a guitar lead snap somewhere in the middle. I realised both jacks were fine so it was inoperable. I dissected it, and just so happened to cut it where the break was. I tape it all back together and it kept living it's life. Damn, that was a lucky moment.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:03 pm
by Mike
Malik wrote:I once had a guitar lead snap somewhere in the middle. I realised both jacks were fine so it was inoperable. I dissected it, and just so happened to cut it where the break was. I tape it all back together and it kept living it's life. Damn, that was a lucky moment.
You should have just jacked the end of the bigger cable. Taping shit in the middle is no good.
Cheers bob you wanker.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:07 pm
by euan
It would work out cheaper really. The George L patch cable kit from Strings Direct is ?45 and thats 10 feet of cable + 10 connectors. The equivilent Klotz cable + right angled Neutrik connectors is under ?25. ?20 saving for a little bit of soldering is that bad at all.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:08 pm
by luke
Mike wrote:Malik wrote:I once had a guitar lead snap somewhere in the middle. I realised both jacks were fine so it was inoperable. I dissected it, and just so happened to cut it where the break was. I tape it all back together and it kept living it's life. Damn, that was a lucky moment.
You should have just jacked the end of the bigger cable. Taping shit in the middle is no good.
Cheers bob you wanker.
Damnit, why didn't I think of that at the time?
I fixed someone's lead hurriedly the other day with my soldering irons, and I must've done something wrong, he rang me up to tell me every time he touched the metal bits on his guitar he got an electric shock.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:21 am
by James
Mike wrote:Cheers bob you wanker.
Admit it, I made your day a little better by clearing up that linguistic mystery for you.
You can thank me by pointing me in the direction of a cheap supplier of George L cables.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:32 am
by euan
bob wrote:
You can thank me by pointing me in the direction of a cheap supplier of George L cables.
Charlie Chandler seems to be the cheapest I can find.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:56 am
by James
those are about the same as diago, i think the cable is cheaper at diago but you have to get red. and they sell less too.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:05 am
by Mike
Diago I went with because it was reasonable and I like the red - plus James is a good sort and threw in an adaptor for my RAT2 aswell.
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:13 pm
by handen
Left to right: Boss BF3 Flanger, Boss DS2 Turbo Distortion, Danelectro Daddy-O Overdrive, GeneralGuitarGadgets Octavo #43, Tim Escobedo's Ugly Face (custom made by JD Sleep at GeneralGuitarGadgets), Danelectro Dan-Echo, Jim Dunlop JH-1, Early 70's Jen Electronica Mr. Cry Baby - It's got a Ducati Bipolare 4/15v thing inside it, which, upon researching, seems to be the same in old Vox wahs of the period. I don't know what it is though. Anyone care to help me out with that?
I got that Jen wah from my uncle, who found it in his closet pretty much un-used in 30 years. He got it from another guy who's big in the industry out east I guess. Anyway, the pot was scratchy and he said I could have it if I could fix it. I took it apart, accidentally broke half the wires to get to the pot, took the pot apart, cleaned it, got it back in there and soldered all the connections back together and now it gives me some wicked Hendrixian type wah sounds - better than my Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wah, thats for sure!!
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:16 pm
by euan
handen wrote:Tim Escobedo's Ugly Face
Zing. Awesome pedal isn't it? I still haven't boxed mine up. Totally awesome pedal, but totally unusable as anything but a toy. Or at least so far it is. I thinking about putting mine in an old Bespeco volume pedal I have.