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Fran wrote:You would have to convert it back to the original bridge to fit the Mute. Which would mean filling the TOM holes with dowel then re-drilling etc.

These have TOMs? I thought they had proper Jaguar (style) bridges?

I'm getting the blue Jazzmaster, but I'm gonna want to put a tort guard on her.

Doesn't look like TOMs, perhaps Fran has been playing his JMJM too much and is now confused

Phil O'Keefe wrote:I've got my eye on the Surf Green Jaguar and Sonic Blue Mustang.

The biggest downside to the Mustang that I can see isn't the slab body - I actually slightly prefer that. Rather, IMHO, it's the Jag / Jazz style saddles. IMO, Mustang saddles are much better, but the old ones and the MIJ Mustang saddles won't work with the Squier's 9.5" fingerboard radius.

I predict a run on blue Loctite world-wide.

Warmoth will sell a truckload of their modified Mustang bridge.


Shame they're so spendy.

ohyeahfuzzbear wrote:I've been out of the loop for a while so this is the first I've heard of these jags. I reeealy like the green one but ,sadly, I have £0 to spare so I'll just continue to reeealy like it for the moment.

Fellow Midlander!

Yeah, just checked, dont know why i thought they had a TOM bridge. In that case, providing the Squier version of the original bridge is the same size spec it would be cheap and easy to do. The worst part is drilling the body for the plunger.

I fitted one on a CIJ model years ago, scroll down to the bottom of THIS PAGE.

given their near-total resemblance to their Fender counterparts, why would you spend more on a Fender? two reasons, I suppose:

1. logo
2. ethical objection to labour conditions under which the Squier was made

i can't think of any other commercial product line that does this. if you want a BMW, you must get a BMW. there is no alternate clone at a discount and certainly not one that has the official sanction of BMW.

Part of me wishes Squier would stick to its own line of Fender-y guitars. Jagmaster, Cyclone, etc. even drop the teles and strats, although that would bankrupt them, I guess. also, the companies are veering toward each other price-wise. Blacktop Fenders and Classic Vibe Squiers are within shouting distance of each other.

i wonder how/if they collaborate on business planning.

Gomer wrote:given their near-total resemblance to their Fender counterparts, why would you spend more on a Fender? two reasons, I suppose:

1. logo
2. ethical objection to labour conditions under which the Squier was made

i can't think of any other commercial product line that does this. if you want a BMW, you must get a BMW. there is no alternate clone at a discount and certainly not one that has the official sanction of BMW.

Part of me wishes Squier would stick to its own line of Fender-y guitars. Jagmaster, Cyclone, etc. even drop the teles and strats, although that would bankrupt them, I guess. also, the companies are veering toward each other price-wise. Blacktop Fenders and Classic Vibe Squiers are within shouting distance of each other.

i wonder how/if they collaborate on business planning.

I think you have to be naive to get hung up on the logo and its a bit late for ethical objection. Most peoples homes are already filled with imported goods made in questionable conditions like this Dell Laptop im typing on for instance.

That aside, i think Fenders logic is for these to be gateway models. Today a Squier, tomorrow a Fender. In the past when a Squier model has had a negative effect on existing Fender models they stop its production.

The Mustang and Jazzmaster (but not the Jag) are now being listed by Andertons at £255 each.

Mustang
Jazzmaster

Noisy Cat wrote:The Mustang and Jazzmaster (but not the Jag) are now being listed by Andertons at £255 each.

Mustang
Jazzmaster

THE FUCK. THAT IS CHEEEEEEP

255? Fuck. But Y NO JAG?

Oh dear. I can't really justify buying one of these, but at that price...

on the recent purchase of the JMJM my wife called my guitar collection excessive (3 electrics). I think this one will have to live in the waredrobe for a bit if I get one

Hmmmm.

I was telling myself, that if these were around the £300 mark, I could justify another £100 for a MIJ/CIJ Jag (I'd rather Fender to be honest), but at £225, the gap is a bit too big to justify.

Does anyone know where these are made yet? The JMJM is made in China, and is shockingly good, but I don't know if it's a fair assumption that these will be just as good.

It'll be China. No way would they be as cheap as they are otherwise.

some of the previous VM series guitars have been made in Indonesia and India in the past so to say it would be China isn't a given.

lorez wrote:on the recent purchase of the JMJM my wife called my guitar collection excessive (3 electrics). I think this one will have to live in the waredrobe for a bit if I get one

Better still if you are going for the Mustang or the Jag, pass it off as your eldest's first guitar and keep it in her room (in a gig bag at least)

I kind of did that with the shortscale strat/jagmaster.

thats a bloody good idea simon

Also,

gusman2x wrote:The JMJM is made in China, and is shockingly good, but I don't know if it's a fair assumption that these will be just as good.

Why the fuck not?

Chris,
If you get away with that, then of course comes their first amp and first pedals...

If you can get away with subversion then the possibilies are endless