ShortScale.org

euan wrote:Big Cheese is the fuzz I want the most.

I'm still debating on making the FF clone- I can get all the nasty oscilating sounds I want out of my feedback loop, but I still really love that gated fuzz sound..

The gated shit is just strangling the power supply to the transistors. My fuzz face copy does it when the batteries die die die.

I've ordered the parts for the Fuzz Factory clone now. Came to a total of $46 delivered to the UK.

euan wrote:The gated shit is just strangling the power supply to the transistors. My fuzz face copy does it when the batteries die die die.

I was talking to Tweez about making a stand-alone box for a FF-style Stab control, to go inline between your mains supply and a dirt pedal for that kinda sound. Is this safe and/or would it work?

I'm not pretty keen on the idea myself.

Because of the placement?

Yeah a bit. It would be kinda weird like.

Stab control should be plenty safe, you can't mess up a pedal with too little voltage - as long as you don't mess up the polarity or anything. I think the FF just uses a 10k pot in series with the power input.

Do he is talking about doing this is a power supply before it goes to the box. Thats why I'm a bit iffy about it. Though if Mike wasn't stuck in the mud somewhere in southern England he would probably tell me to stop being a bitch.

DuoSonicBoy wrote:Stab control should be plenty safe, you can't mess up a pedal with too little voltage - as long as you don't mess up the polarity or anything. I think the FF just uses a 10k pot in series with the power input.

Probably less, the starve resistor in the Prallel Universe is a 2k2. a 10k the "sweet spot" owuld probably be a real pain to nail down.

The Fuzz Factory actually has a 5k pot as the 'Stab' control, which would be easier to dial in.

Oh SNAP - I just got owned for fuzz knowledge.
It is a 5k in the FF - some guy on the DIY forum used 10k on a simpler fuzz so he could dial it down to zero volts - but yr all right about the sweet spot thing.

Doog wrote:AEN: MAKE A BIG CHEESE FUZZ CLONE I WULD BUY ONE

you can buy a kit from www.olcircuits.com

Yeah, that's a possibility too, but not as cheap like..

inscho wrote:

Doog wrote:AEN: MAKE A BIG CHEESE FUZZ CLONE I WULD BUY ONE

you can buy a kit from www.olcircuits.com

I don't get a good feeling from cloning for profit.

I don't get a good feeling from spending $150+ on a pedal with only $25 in parts.

I have a lot of respect for folks like Zvex, Devi Ever.

If you build, you know how much work it is. Yeah, it's not a lot on parts, but imagine if they paid themselves a decent hourly wage (especially devi) what you'd have to pay for a pedal.

My Squaresnkaes are probably more work than a "simple" fuzz, but it's a good 8-10 hours of work. If i were to make a "living wage" off of these, that's at least 90 bucks in labor. A squaresnakes, for example, is about 40-45 bucks in raw parts. Let alone all the hours of R&D, cost of consumable materials, tools, etc.

I used to think $200 was alot for an awesome pedal, now I know differently.

I can understand the premium price for really special, artistic stuff. All the complexity that goes into an OOOOhhh Wah, Seek Trem, Fuzz Probe, RingTone - those pedals aren't overpriced at all.
But something like the SHO, which only has about 12 parts, and all the YAFFs out there - well, they'd have to be really artistic for me to even consider it. For that stuff, I'd just rather make it myself.

SHO isn't even a totally original design.

euan wrote:SHO isn't even a totally original design.

Neither is the Wooly Mammoth, he actually admits to that though. I think a lot of circuits are very similar that there is bound to be repetition at some point.