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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:00 pm
by Mike
You use Log for both. I'm not a muppet.

Personally I think you will experience the treble/frequency range increase from just doing the Volume pots, but while you're there you might aswell do the tones.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:02 pm
by euan
Hmm, I've never changed tone pots. But I always thought you should use linear for tone.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:07 pm
by euan
Baws, I've lost my electronics bookmark folder. I had like ever place worth ordering from in the UK.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:09 pm
by Mike
Depends how you want the tone control to respond. I would use Log/Audio taper on both personally.

http://music-electronics-forum.com/show ... r#post6732

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:24 pm
by Rikki
I'm lazy and tend to keep the volume full on both, but since i'm doing the new pickup I will do the volume and tone pot at the same time.

Whats the quality like on the CIJ jazzmaster pots?

The live earth streams are pretty good, just watching wembley, can't wait for Spinal Tap with Rick Gervais

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:28 pm
by euan
CIJ use Alpha pots. Nothing wrong with them at all. All Marshalls use Alphas, infact most thing guitar related will be Alphas in my experience.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:40 pm
by euan
The only knnurled 1M log pots that I can find are from WD music and cost £3.80. Baws.

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products. ... oduct=4129

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:41 pm
by Rikki
euan wrote:CIJ use Alpha pots. Nothing wrong with them at all. All Marshalls use Alphas, infact most thing guitar related will be Alphas in my experience.
just figured while I've got the pickguard off for the new pickups and shielding I may aswell do the pots too, but if the ones in there are good I won't touch them

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:46 pm
by More Cowbell
Mike wrote:You use Log for both. I'm not a muppet.

Personally I think you will experience the treble/frequency range increase from just doing the Volume pots, but while you're there you might aswell do the tones.
According to SD, volume is linear and tone is Audio pots.

On a jazzmaster that is.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:56 pm
by Mike
Volume should always be Log/Audio. There is a debate on Tone, but Volume should always be Log since your ear hears sound level (volume) differences logarithmically and so the taper is better suited.

I'm not saying you're incorrect as manufacturers fuck up all the time. All the action in a linear pot will sound like it occurs between 0 and 3 to the human ear.

Fender put a linear pot in the Hot Rod Deluxe Master volume for some lame reason (there is speculation that you'll put the amp on 2 in the shop and go "WOW this is LOUD and there's loads of settings left" and buy the amp when the volume difference from 2.5-3 upwards is negligible because it's Linear taper.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:57 pm
by Mike
euan wrote:The only knnurled 1M log pots that I can find are from WD music and cost £3.80. Baws.

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products. ... oduct=4129
The pots of my Deluxe aren't knurled, the shafts are smooth and the knob fits on with a side screw.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:13 pm
by Rikki
Mike wrote:Volume should always be Log/Audio. There is a debate on Tone, but Volume should always be Log since your ear hears sound level (volume) differences logarithmically and so the taper is better suited.

I'm not saying you're incorrect as manufacturers fuck up all the time. All the action in a linear pot will sound like it occurs between 0 and 3 to the human ear.

Fender put a linear pot in the Hot Rod Deluxe Master volume for some lame reason (there is speculation that you'll put the amp on 2 in the shop and go "WOW this is LOUD and there's loads of settings left" and buy the amp when the volume difference from 2.5-3 upwards is negligible because it's Linear taper.
yeah my hot rod has similar headroom to my tt, I guess in tube land 40 watts isn't THAT much more than 15 watts,

If I ever got a blues deluxe(probably wouldn't own a hot rod again) the first mod I would do is change it from linear to audio cause its just makes them so hard to adjust otherwise

Kasabian are on shortly yay they are one of the best live acts I've seen, but then again I saw them at night in a cramped club, stadium might not be as fun

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:44 pm
by euan
Mike wrote:
euan wrote:The only knnurled 1M log pots that I can find are from WD music and cost £3.80. Baws.

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products. ... oduct=4129
The pots of my Deluxe aren't knurled, the shafts are smooth and the knob fits on with a side screw.
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=113 have 1M log smooth shaft Alpha minis. I'm forgetting your Tele is a MIM and I've got a CIJ.

Hot Rox have full size 1M. No direct link because they use javascript

http://www.hotroxuk.com/store/erol.html

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:06 am
by Doog
Balls, he never posted a review/demo/soundclip! :x

There's so little about this pickup online- one Google result brings me right back to my beloved Shartscole and NATHIN!

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RumorsOfSurf provides some soundz, but I'd really wanna hear it against a more standard pickup..

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:59 pm
by Mike
Oh hooray, country.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:37 pm
by Aeon
Mike wrote:Oh hooray, country.
'alt' country :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:06 pm
by taylornutt
Mike wrote:They're the same but you should be able to get more treble out of the Custom/Deluxe neck pickup by raising to towards the strings, it really starts to sparkle then.

I've actually been using the neck pickup on my Deluxe (and the combination of both) a lot more since rejigging the scratchplates and setting the pickup height higher.

The pickup model is identical though
I didn't know you still had your Tele Deluxe.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:07 pm
by Doog
Mega old post, dude.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:08 pm
by taylornutt
Doog wrote:Mega old post, dude.
Sorry. Just noticed that. Duuoooohhh!

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:49 am
by robroe
i don't know if this was ever discussed in the thread but tele bridge pickups are slanted, so the pole pieces shouldn't line up correctly if you jam it in jazz cover and screw it in straight right?