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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:35 am
by Mike
Fibus wrote:Any opinions on these:

JCM2000 DSL401
Owned one. My thoughts:
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 401#199784
Mike wrote:I liked mine when I had it, but I discovered I'll always be a head and cab kinda guy, I'm just used to the extra umpf you get, plus I've been spoiled by having a 3 channel amp..


Aaaanywho - if you remind me I can upload the stuff I did with my DSL401 later, I have a few samples kicking around.

Overall I liked it, it was a great amp and they hold their value well. Some plus and minus points:

Pluses
- very cheap in the UK for what it is
- amazing clean channel, that takes pedals really really well
- nice spring reverb
- plenty loud for small/medium gigs but sounds great at low volumes too
- Can get a wide range of overdriven tones, from light crunch to full bore Marshall roar
- Portable, relatively light
- Holds value EXTREMELY well - I sold mine second hand for £25 less than it was new

Minuses
- Overdrive channel a little bass light, voiced in the midrange for a lead tone - can be remedied by putting an EQ set for bass boost in the FX loop and using the Mix control as a Bass control
- Slightly buzzy tone to the Overdrive up the dial, get a £10 12DW7 valve to clear this up and leave the clean channel unaffected
- Slightly slow channel switching - although yuo can get used to the slight delay from clean to drive
- Stock speaker not the best - I reckon this would benefit greatly from a warmer driver like a Vintage30

Overall though I'm not sure you can beat it in the Uk for price and sounds.
Mike wrote:The OD1 and OD2 do share a volume gain, the difference is just a 20dB attentuation of OD2 to form OD1, basically I used to use OD2 with gain at around 9'o clock as it's the true open sound of the channel which was a good medium/high overdrive, OD1 I didn't really use all that much. You're right that it's thinner.

I paid £389 for mine and sold it on ebay for £365. Not bad eh?

I still own teh 6100 yeah, I love it. The DSL401 can do a passable impression of the crunch sounds I like about the 6100, or the higher gain Lead channel, obviously not exatcly the same as it's EL84s vs. EL34s but not bad at all - particularly after you upgrade V2 to a 12DW7.

The DSL401 has a more midrange chimey tone Aka Vox AC30 but far more versatile wheras the 6100 is more variable seeing as it has a prescence control and different gain structures.

Gareth has a TSL601 which is not a bad amp but very expensive. With all these amps dime the Master you get your power tubes cooking and keep the channel volumes lower and you'll be laughing.
A clip I made of it:
http://www.netmusicians.org/files/80-dsl401.mp3


Also used live in the Cellar Bar 2 mp3s here:
http://www.sellcrazymusic.com/music.html

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:38 am
by Mike
Fibus wrote: JCM900
http://www.drtube.com/marshall.htm#JCM900
The 4100's were introduced in 1990 and discontinued in 1999. The 4100 was reissued in 2003. The 4101 1x12" combo was fitted with a Celestion G12H-100 loudspeaker. The 4102 2x12" combo was fitted with two Celestion (I think 16Ω) G12T-75 loudspeakers.
Not well desired as they're part of the "bad" JCM900 models which used diode clipping on the Gain Sensitivity control. No clean and crunch, just a switchable master i believe. Would avoid.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:41 am
by Mike
It was a well built good looking amp
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:32 pm
by Fibus
Comprehensive! I listened to the sample and it sounds nice. Thanks for all the advice, i am gonna pop down to the guitar shoppe after work and see what they have on offer and if nothing takes my eye then its onto the internets!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:16 pm
by Wilbur
Fibus wrote: [youtube][/youtube]
For fucks sake.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:24 pm
by James
Wilbur wrote:
Fibus wrote: [youtube][/youtube]
For fucks sake.
You're complaining at shirtless guitaring whilst having a RHCP logo as your signature?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:30 pm
by Wilbur
James wrote:
Wilbur wrote:
Fibus wrote: [youtube][/youtube]
For fucks sake.
You're complaining at shirtless guitaring whilst having a RHCP logo as your signature?
I've been had...

God I feel ashamed of myself.

:D

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:28 pm
by mewithoutus
Sloan wrote:
Peavey

Classic 50

Fender
Bassman Ten
get these, run them in stereo, wonder why you werent ruling the world prior to now (or whatever time you turn on both amps at once and play a chord).

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:05 pm
by Johno