I'm not familiar with it. I seem to remember that Ibanez have a fucking huge wrapover bridge that is supposed to be good Is it a similar sort of thing?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:06 pm
by Fran
BacchusPaul wrote:I'm not familiar with it. I seem to remember that Ibanez have a fucking huge wrapover bridge that is supposed to be good Is it a similar sort of thing?
Its not huge at all. The classiest Wrapover i've seen in fact.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:14 pm
by Bacchus
THat is quite nice looking.
I can't find any pics of the ibanez one I'm thinking of. It was either a wrapover, or a tune-o-matic type thing that was really over sized, but was supposed to sound amazing, and sustain for days.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:27 pm
by Fran
BacchusPaul wrote:THat is quite nice looking.
I can't find any pics of the ibanez one I'm thinking of. It was either a wrapover, or a tune-o-matic type thing that was really over sized, but was supposed to sound amazing, and sustain for days.
I know which one you mean. I had one on a GAX 75, the LP Junior shape Ibanez with the drop D switch, it is a great design...
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:34 pm
by Bacchus
That reminds me: can the van Halen style D-tuna be retro-fitted to a Floyd Rose, or odes it have to come with it?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:36 pm
by Bacchus
Neveer mind. I looked it up on that there internet. Turns out it can be retrofitted, no problem.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:43 pm
by Fran
Lol, dont say that, i've been looking at those. ;P
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:50 pm
by Bacchus
I'm thinking D-tuna and a hipshot trem setter. The trem setter seems like a bollocks to install, though.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:04 pm
by Bacchus
Fucking hell. fancy spending a couple of hundred dollars on a replacement block for your floyd rose? How about new saddles FOR OVER A GRAND?
I looked into them tremsetters, it seems they limit certain things. You cant 'warble' for starters and upbending compromises its stability. I bet Dimebag thought they were gay
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:08 pm
by Bacchus
I'm trying to work out a way of having a floating trem, but one that can drop tune. I suspect that carrying the right sized block of wood about with me is the only realistic answer.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:32 pm
by Aeon
Mike wrote:
aphasiac wrote:Sonic Youth are using them - that's a pretty good endorsement right?
Are you kidding?
Sonic Youth also make atonal boring music, even their die-hard fans would struggle to suggest they still justify their own existance based upon their recent output. I would say it's every reason to discard them.
Quoted for ignorance. Sonic Youth are probably one of the most interesting alternative bands today, and their focus in recent years has been a movement away from atonal noise and towards melody.
To save you future embarrassment, I'm going to upload a few songs from their most recent albums.
hahahh.. like I'd sully my hard disk with that shite.
They finally tried to write melodies? OH I REALLY CARE NOW.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:36 pm
by Justin J
Aeon wrote:Sonic Youth are probably one of the most interesting alternative bands today
you are aware this is 2008 not 1988, right?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:46 pm
by Aeon
bubbles_horwitz wrote:
Aeon wrote:Sonic Youth are probably one of the most interesting alternative bands today
you are aware this is 2008 not 1988, right?
You are aware that they put out five full lengths in the 90s, four in the 2000s, and are about to release another one this coming spring? Not to mention the solo albums. They aren't coasting on past material, they are continuously releasing new material. I'm not saying every single one was of Daydream Nation caliber, but pretty much every SY fan loves Goo, Dirty, Murray Street, and Soinc Nurse.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:47 pm
by Justin J
but calling them one of the most interesting band around is very short-sighted.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:52 pm
by Fran
Dirty is awesome and Daydream Nation and Goo!..... but it all seems a bit yesterday to me. I saw them back in 1990. New bands have come along since, SY have had there period of glory and i would like to be wrong but i cannot see them producing anything interesting based on recent material.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:01 am
by Aeon
I would hardly consider myself a diehard fan of them, but I can't really think of too many other bands in recent years that have made as many progressions on how the electric guitar is played as they have.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:05 am
by Fran
Aeon wrote:I would hardly consider myself a diehard fan of them, but I can't really think of too many other bands in recent years that have made as many progressions on how the electric guitar is played as they have.
Alternate tunings are nothing new. I do like the voicings they get but dude, its a bit old hat. If you want to hear a different approach to guitar playing check Agata from Melt Banana.
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:19 am
by Aeon
Fran wrote:
Aeon wrote:I would hardly consider myself a diehard fan of them, but I can't really think of too many other bands in recent years that have made as many progressions on how the electric guitar is played as they have.
Alternate tunings are nothing new. I do like the voicings they get but dude, its a bit old hat. If you want to hear a different approach to guitar playing check Agata from Melt Banana.
I don't disagree, scordatura's been around for centuries. But they've also employed alternative timbers, 3rd bridge techniques, and the use of random objects -- all without the use of cheap tricks like modulation or delay.
That Melt Banana video is interesting, but it sounded rather shrill. I couldn't tell much from the video but it seemed like he was just doing pretty typical Tom Morello-esque stuff.
