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apart from the stated low volume and crappy mic-age, i can't for the life of me hear anything wrong with the sound of the guitar.

Aeon wrote: 'Rock band practicality'? Dude, it's not the 60s anymore, the majority of music venues have PA systems that don't completely suck.

That's a load of shite.

Hahah it's a completely reversible "mod", not like it requires any sort of drilling or whatnot. Jazz/jag saddles are threaded and have less string contact than an alternative bridge. As I had said originally, it was just a suggestion and if you're happy with your plinkimaster than that's totes fine with me.

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potsandpansacaster
dullthudimaster

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I'm just messing with you, no need to get upset. I understand the aesthetic choice of using a wall of amps, I just am offering an alternative opinion. Why offer yours on a forum if you don't want mine.

2nd edit: and actually i like you, you are the guy who sold me the BoR iirc

LESS STRING CONTACE!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS. HOW THE FUCKING HELL IS THERE LESS STRING CONTACT

light rail coyote wrote:LESS STRING CONTACE!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS. HOW THE FUCKING HELL IS THERE LESS STRING CONTACT

The string is making more contact on a Mustang saddle. It's kinda following the curve of saddle. On a Jazz/Jag saddle, it is sitting between two ridges and not (or at least not entirely) making contact with the center of the saddle.

Why then, does a floating wooden bridge have good sustain? Why then does a ToM have good sustain when th strings are sitting in the edge of a ridge? Your theories have no basis in fact. I'm not trying to be a dick to you but what you're saying is not backed up by evidence.

Ok I have both a mustang and a jazzy. the threads on the E A and D are just as wide and V shaped as the groove in the mustang saddle. have you ever actually looked ant both next to each other? Those strings have just the same amount of contact area.

light rail coyote wrote:

Ok I have both a mustang and a jazzy. the threads on the E A and D are just as wide and V shaped as the groove in the mustang saddle. have you ever actually looked ant both next to each other? Those strings have just the same amount of contact area.

I own a Jazzmaster and used to own a Mustang. I have experimented with using alternative saddles and yes the Mustang bridge is a better design that on the same guitar, offers a slight but noticeable increase to sustain.

The best of course is the Mastery, but shortscale seems to have this attitude that it's not that good/worth the money. I don't think a $200~ upgrade is that excessive considering you spent many times that on the guitar, but whatevs.

There's nothing girly about my 2x12" + Marshall 50W head setup. It's louder than I would ever need it to be.

All those ten inch speakers just make your willy look small.

I've always loved giant rigs and full stacks and all that stuff, and have always considered getting one, but the amp I have is a 2X12 combo and its 130W and loud as fuck, and i can move it easily. My amp is practical, loud, and sounds good. so no full stack for me any time soon, but I think your rig is pretty cool.

I have been in gigging bands on an off for a couple years, and when a band shows up with their giant amps and a bunch of stuff they don't need they usually move it in and set up pretty fast. In my experiences people move their giant rigs fast and what not, I don't care, I think that's pretty cool for them if they can do that and want to do that.

Gavin wrote:Why then, does a floating wooden bridge have good sustain? Why then does a ToM have good sustain when th strings are sitting in the edge of a ridge? Your theories have no basis in fact. I'm not trying to be a dick to you but what you're saying is not backed up by evidence.

What constitutes "good" sustain from "bad" sustain is all relative. I'd argue that part of the charm of the Jazzmaster is its inherent lack of sustain. I'm not actually a big fan of Gibson-style instruments. But sometimes a little more is nice.

It all depends on the application, which is what I was saying from the beginning. My intention was never to make this some sort of dick-measuring contest about which bridge has the most sustain, I was merely offering a suggestion to someone whose guitar could potentially benefit from a minor modification. Take it or leave it, but don't argue that there isn't actual measurable difference when there is.

Sorta wish I still had my Mustang so I could record my guitar with both and actually verify this beyond just stating my personal experience.

some bands a smaller setup is what's called for, some bands need a little more.
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I have both sitting right next to me. Jazzmaster sustains longer, and is brighter and less dull. I could make a video if you want

arguing about sustain is really weird to me.

are you all in the habit of letting notes ring out for ages in songs or something?

Reece wrote:arguing about sustain is really weird to me.

are you all in the habit of letting notes ring out for ages in songs or something?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Reece wrote:arguing about sustain is really weird to me.

are you all in the habit of letting notes ring out for ages in songs or something?

+1

If you care it means your music is rubbish.

Hahahaha how did I forget about teh doomz!

But then you're better off just buying a Les Paul rather than a snake-oil seventy quid bridge.

also you broke my formatting.

If anything you should be talking shit about my lack of playing ability, not sustain and needing a $200 disgusting looking bridge

Aeon wrote:

Gavin wrote:Why then, does a floating wooden bridge have good sustain? Why then does a ToM have good sustain when th strings are sitting in the edge of a ridge? Your theories have no basis in fact. I'm not trying to be a dick to you but what you're saying is not backed up by evidence.

What constitutes "good" sustain from "bad" sustain is all relative. I'd argue that part of the charm of the Jazzmaster is its inherent lack of sustain. I'm not actually a big fan of Gibson-style instruments. But sometimes a little more is nice.

It all depends on the application, which is what I was saying from the beginning. My intention was never to make this some sort of dick-measuring contest about which bridge has the most sustain, I was merely offering a suggestion to someone whose guitar could potentially benefit from a minor modification. Take it or leave it, but don't argue that there isn't actual measurable difference when there is.

Sorta wish I still had my Mustang so I could record my guitar with both and actually verify this beyond just stating my personal experience.

When I had a Mustang bridge on my Jaguar I had less sustain. Because of the bridge construction on the bridges,
the Mustang saddles can sometimes rattle around in their seat, where as if you have a Jag/Jazzy bridge correctly
set up the grub screws will act like little feet lifting the saddle off the seat and securing it firmly in place so you will
not get the sustain sapping vibration. I've never owned a Jazzmaster, so maybe the longer scale would create more
downward string tension on the bridge and this problem wouldn't happen, but it definitely would not add more sustain.
The theory that more mass = more sustain is false pseudo science. Those fat finger things for headstocks don't add sustain.

Reece wrote: also you broke my formatting.

My keyboard has killer sustain.