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Fran wrote:I have the best factory model, black w/red tort and Jag trem.
Me and Kurt were hanging out one tuesday afternoon and he said i was a douche for choosing the Jaguar trem over the Mustang trem, we had a pretty bad fight and i feel bad about that since he died later on.
Anyways, its all water under the bridge now, Krist said kurt often talked about me so i guess there's no bad feelings.

I still use that guitar to this day...

cobascis wrote:$600 dollars is a cheap guitar?

othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!

Fran wrote:

Mike wrote:

Fran wrote:Its as lifeless as the player.
How many times have you seen a live guitar player LEAN on a great design? You know, the average guy busting a Tele or Ibanez. Give them a Encore Strat copy, then see what they do.
I know we are all gearheads but at times our dependency is pathetic.

Are you calling Doog a shit player? He feels the same way about it. It has an undefined wooly response.

That seems to be the SONDZ you like, but it sure as hell isn't what I enjoy, and that has precise dick all to do with my ability or chops as a performer. DO ONE.

You dont have to take generalizations personal all the time Mike, i was'nt thinking of you, Doog or any specific person when i posted that. Im talking about guitarists in general.
Theres plenty of people think the Jaguar is a lifeless piece of shit, same as Ibanez RG models and plenty of other designs and i disagree. Like Johnny Marr said about the Jaguar- they just make you work harder as a player, unlike say a Tele that you just plug in and away you go.
I like this approach and i enjoy the challenge, besides, if a design appeals then its worth persevering with.

You might think i like wooly sounds, like you seem to think i want to drown all drummers out and i only play toneless Metal. But your wrong. My taste varies a lot, it just so happens to be i am currently in a Stoner Rock band so thats where im at at the moment.
Anyway, my JS is bright sounding. I'll bring it to Frogfest.

weeping_moon wrote:aha, where did you meet cobain? why did kurt talk about you so often with krist? have you been playing with non of those old grunge bands? because i think i recognize you in the picture!

I was joking dude.

weeping_moon wrote:

othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!

that´s not true at all...

weeping_moon wrote:What do you think? Is it completely crap, or a good guitar?

weeping_moon wrote:

Fran wrote:

Mike wrote: Are you calling Doog a shit player? He feels the same way about it. It has an undefined wooly response.

That seems to be the SONDZ you like, but it sure as hell isn't what I enjoy, and that has precise dick all to do with my ability or chops as a performer. DO ONE.

You dont have to take generalizations personal all the time Mike, i was'nt thinking of you, Doog or any specific person when i posted that. Im talking about guitarists in general.
Theres plenty of people think the Jaguar is a lifeless piece of shit, same as Ibanez RG models and plenty of other designs and i disagree. Like Johnny Marr said about the Jaguar- they just make you work harder as a player, unlike say a Tele that you just plug in and away you go.
I like this approach and i enjoy the challenge, besides, if a design appeals then its worth persevering with.

You might think i like wooly sounds, like you seem to think i want to drown all drummers out and i only play toneless Metal. But your wrong. My taste varies a lot, it just so happens to be i am currently in a Stoner Rock band so thats where im at at the moment.
Anyway, my JS is bright sounding. I'll bring it to Frogfest.

weeping_moon wrote:aha, where did you meet cobain? why did kurt talk about you so often with krist? have you been playing with non of those old grunge bands? because i think i recognize you in the picture!

I was joking dude.

ok.. but was it funny?

Fran wrote:Mike clearly loved the Jagstang back then

othomas2 wrote:

weeping_moon wrote:

othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!

that´s not true at all...

What's not true ?? Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one !! My opinion can't be un true.

weeping_moon wrote:What do you think? Is it completely crap, or a good guitar?

You don't seem too sure yourself ??