MY LES PAUL: FUCKING BROKE AGAIN.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:45 pm

Mike wrote:It's shit design that has been pointed out and corrected by others many many times over, and for the price they're charging it is absurd that it could occur.

And people give Fender shit about cheaping out.

in all fairness, gibson did correct the issue in the late '60s by adding a volute, but everyone complained that it wasn't "vintage correct".

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:19 pm

You mean Lawyers complained.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:20 pm

NickS wrote:A crystal glass costs more than a plastic cup but is more likely to break if it falls over.

Hmm. I didn't mean to come over all Yoda there...

Crystal glass is not an instrument of rock.

So fuck CrystallGlasses and fuck Gibsons.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:54 pm

These really do have glass necks.....

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:03 pm

Aswell as his glass guitars, he also appears to have Guitarist Magazine for a Penis.

So he's got bigger problems.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:05 pm

Mike wrote:Aswell as his glass guitars, he also appears to have Guitarist Magazine for a Penis.

Insert Slash joke here.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:20 pm

Nick wrote:
James wrote:I'm not sure about Rhys, but I know if I had a serious money guitar that had had the headstock break off twice I wouldn't want to hear a thing along the lines of 'well you should have kept it on a guitar stand or in a case'. Fuck some Gibsons.
And when you have an auto accident you don't like to be told that you should've had your eyes on the road instead of your radio or cell phone. Maybe saying "I told you so" is a bit much, but really, it's only Gibson's fault if they pushed the guitar over themselves. If you insist on not being careful with musical instruments I would go durability over anything on your next purchase.

It's different because that sort of negligence in a car creates unnecesary danger for innocent people. In my experience people reacte with the 'keep your eyes on the road' type lines when other people are at risk due to your carelessness. If someone reverses their car into their own garage door, people seem to be less critical and to some extent think that they also do careless things sometimes and have some sympathy for the cost of repair.

Saying 'you should have used a stand' isn't going to do anything other than piss off a person who already admitted being a little careless.

pumpkin · Post by **pumpkin** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:28 pm

Gibson guitars are great. I love them... however, the headstock snapping is not cool.

Subsequent years brought new company ownership to the Gibson Guitar Company. During the "Norlin Era", Gibson Les Paul body designs were greatly altered, most notably, the change to the neck volute. Because the Les Paul had the reputation of having an easily broken neck joint, the volute strengthened the neck where it joined the headstock to avert breakage. To further increase the strength, the neck woods were changed from mahogany to a three-piece maple design. The LP body was changed from a one piece mahogany with a maple top into multiple slabs of mahogany with multiple pieced maple tops (also called a "pancake body').

However, a bunch of people gave out so they changed back.

I have played a bunch of "pancake" Les Pauls and I think they sound great. They should've kept that change.

I may make a Les Paul but get the neck made by a luthier with 3 ply maple and a rosewood fret board.

pumpkin · Post by **pumpkin** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:32 pm

Mike wrote:Aswell as his glass guitars, he also appears to have Guitarist Magazine for a Penis.

So he's got bigger problems.

What if he had Slash as a penis, think of the advice he could offer. Slash has all the answers to life's little problems.

SoylentGreenIsPeople · Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:48 pm

If they weren't so rare and expensive, I'd get a Travis Bean TB3000 Wedge.

You can drop one of those bastards all you want. The necks are METAL.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:53 pm

too bad they look like a broomstick.

SoylentGreenIsPeople · Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:56 pm

I like the shape. It looks like what Pyramid Head from Silent Hill 2 would play.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:11 pm

Reece wrote:too bad they look like a broomstick.

Or a lacrosse stick.

pumpkin · Post by **pumpkin** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:25 pm

You can get a Kramer Aluminium Neck for $700 or so

http://www.fatdawg.com/dawgpress/

http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm

SoylentGreenIsPeople · Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:28 pm

I prefer the wedge. It's unique!

There's actually a metal-necked Kramer at the shop down the street where I put my Bassman on layaway.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:07 pm

i like the wedge as well, but trying to find any plans for the body is next to impossible.

pumpkin · Post by **pumpkin** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:19 pm

finboy wrote:i like the wedge as well, but trying to find any plans for the body is next to impossible.

Are electric guitar company making one?

SoylentGreenIsPeople · Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:21 pm

I'm pretty sure Travis Bean is completely out of business. The main problem with DIY is making a metal neck.

EDIT: They're making a documentary.

http://www.travisbeanmovie.com/

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:46 pm

SoylentGreenIsPeople wrote:I'm pretty sure Travis Bean is completely out of business. The main problem with DIY is making a metal neck.

EDIT: They're making a documentary.

http://www.travisbeanmovie.com/

the neck is the easy part, there is a guy online that machines them for about 400-600 depending. body sizing is the issue

SoylentGreenIsPeople · Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:54 pm

finboy wrote:
SoylentGreenIsPeople wrote:I'm pretty sure Travis Bean is completely out of business. The main problem with DIY is making a metal neck.

EDIT: They're making a documentary.

http://www.travisbeanmovie.com/
the neck is the easy part, there is a guy online that machines them for about 400-600 depending.

That's not too easy on the wallet.

I don't think it would be that important to get the body dimensions perfect. Studying pictures should allow one to get it close enough. If perfection is desired, though, there are a few fan sites where inquiries might pay off.