ShortScale.org

Nice find. Are those both Vistas?

rlm2112 wrote:Nice find. Are those both Vistas?

count the damn frets

rlm2112 wrote:Nice find. Are those both Vistas?

yes, they both r....

The scumburst is HotRod's and the CAR is mine... both 96-97 first runs.... this pic is from our STL SS meet up last weekend

I tried the recent black/White one today. It was a pretty nice guitar. Looked good, played nice. Didn't play it plugged in though, I imagine it's a pretty typical HH guitar. Would consider getting it as a modding platform nearly, put a tort pickguard on it, but it was a bit on the heavy side.

yep they are bloody heavy (guess its the alder) but plenty of scope for modding with that swimming pool of a route under the guard.
Just add one extra humbucker to get teh FreHleyszZ

rps-10 wrote:yep they are bloody heavy (guess its the alder) but plenty of scope for modding with that swimming pool of a route under the guard.
Just add one extra humbucker to get teh FreHleyszZ

Hey, is the swimming pool enough to put Jazzmaster pickups in? You could do a pretty awesome mod with an offset equivalent of a HSH design, Jazzmaster Jag Jazzmaster. Would be pretty boss. Shame about the Strat Trem.

The silver sparkle Jagmaster is not Affinity series, btw.

Mine clearly said "Standard series" on the headstock.

Would one of these be a decent project guitar, if I swapped the pickups for something interesting, put a decent Tort guard on it and installed a Wilkinson Trem?

Do you reckon the Vistas are of decent enough quality to bother with or should I go with a proper Jag? It just seemed like it could be a cool idea, as I did like the one I briefly tried.

Medicine Melancholy wrote:Would one of these be a decent project guitar, if I swapped the pickups for something interesting, put a decent Tort guard on it and installed a Wilkinson Trem?

Do you reckon the Vistas are of decent enough quality to bother with or should I go with a proper Jag? It just seemed like it could be a cool idea, as I did like the one I briefly tried.

Don't cut up a Vista, but the Chinese ones are good for projects. Here is one I did.

[youtube][/youtube]

My silver sparkle Jagmaster is an excellent guitar. It as a two-point trem, which I find to be very good. It's also a long scale, so it's pretty much not much different from an HH Strat. I use it as my main humbucker guitar and the whammy is very usable.

Vistas aren't just decent, they're very good.

bump - because the newbs should read this info.

and also can we get someone who has mod access to get this information up in the wiki? Dots i'm looking at you.

honeyiscool wrote:My silver sparkle Jagmaster is an excellent guitar. It as a two-point trem, which I find to be very good. It's also a long scale, so it's pretty much not much different from an HH Strat. I use it as my main humbucker guitar and the whammy is very usable.

Vistas aren't just decent, they're very good.

Do you know what years Squire made them with the two-point trem? I have a silver one on the way. Didn't realize that it's not a shortscale.

quite an interesting topic. Good job.

I plan to buy a 2009 standard Jagmaster, but I wont get a 24 scale ? I asked the seller if he could do the measurement from nut to 12th fret and it reads 305 mm ..
seems like 24 inch to me..
I dont want to swap necks or body or anything, I just want a Gibson-like scale on the Jag..I recently played a HH Blackface jaguar and the neck was fine, felt like 24 inch..

cheers

jamba72 wrote:I wont get a 24 scale ?

Do you mean won't or is this a typo for want? Do you want 24" or don't want 24"?

NickS wrote:

jamba72 wrote:I wont get a 24 scale ?

Do you mean won't or is this a typo for want? Do you want 24" or don't want 24"?

Yes, Sir, I waaaant a 24" neck...

.. I once had a Jagmaster but it wasnt 24"..it felt like standard Fender 25,5" , maybe it was one of the 2000 models..

ok, found a comparison of scale dimensions, this makes it clearer now..

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3798 ... 8t_jpg.htm

That's a nice image for reference, but it's a bit misleading. It shows as if the neck pocket and bridge location is the same for all guitars. It's not. You can't just slap a baritone neck on a Strat, or a Jazzmaster neck on a Jaguar, and expect it to work. The only really accurate comparison there would be the Strat (25.5") vs. Conversion (24.75") necks, because in that case, the location of the bridge and the neck pocket would indeed be exactly the same. And, just because a guitar is a longer scale length, doesn't mean it's longer overall. In fact, Jaguars---and I assume Jagmasters---are typically longer than a Strat.

That said, if measurement from nut to 12th fret was really 305mm, that is definitely a 24" scale. If it were a 25.5" scale it would be around 323-234mm. Also, a 24" scale feels quite a lot different from Gibson scale IMO, but it sounds like you've played one and enjoyed it anyway

Dillon wrote:That's a nice image for reference, but it's a bit misleading. It shows as if the neck pocket and bridge location is the same for all guitars. It's not. You can't just slap a baritone neck on a Strat, or a Jazzmaster neck on a Jaguar, and expect it to work. The only really accurate comparison there would be the Strat (25.5") vs. Conversion (24.75") necks, because in that case, the location of the bridge and the neck pocket would indeed be exactly the same. And, just because a guitar is a longer scale length, doesn't mean it's longer overall. In fact, Jaguars---and I assume Jagmasters---are typically longer than a Strat.

That said, if measurement from nut to 12th fret was really 305mm, that is definitely a 24" scale. If it were a 25.5" scale it would be around 323-234mm. Also, a 24" scale feels quite a lot different from Gibson scale IMO, but it sounds like you've played one and enjoyed it anyway

yeah, you´re right, but I found the comparison ok for a basic understanding, even if the neck pocket is an additional thing..

Today I got my 2008 Jagmaster, its REALLY a nice player..When I had another one two years ago, the scale was definitely another one, it felt like a regular 25,5..
I GUESS it must have been one of the 2000 series with that scale..after 2005 they switched back to 24,75 scale..



and yes, the 24 scale ( Mustang) again is shorter again..