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Mages wrote:like two years ago the 65 RI was only like $700. the new $940 price tag is ridiculous. you can buy a vintage mustang for that much easily.

I know this, but I would choose a 65 RI over most vintage Mustangs. I know, sacrilegious.

you're all sorts of twisted bro

honeyiscool wrote:

Mages wrote:like two years ago the 65 RI was only like $700. the new $940 price tag is ridiculous. you can buy a vintage mustang for that much easily.

I know this, but I would choose a 65 RI over most vintage Mustangs. I know, sacrilegious.

seriously? fender isnt going to run out of RIs.

What does scarcity have to do with how much I like something?

The new reissues have what I'm looking for in a guitar, I like having fresh frets and a clean body that I can ding on my own terms.

honeyiscool wrote:What does scarcity have to do with how much I like something?

The new reissues have what I'm looking for in a guitar, I like having fresh frets and a clean body that I can ding on my own terms.

They world will eventually run out of old mustangs, but hey man, its your money!

My Mustangs will one day be old Mustangs.

I was thinking about that today while I was eating Chinese food. Half the stuff that we think is crap is going to be classic in like 40 years.

Seriously, in 2050, there will be car shows where people are showing off their 2003 Escalades.

Yeah the accuracy of the 65RI's is spot on. The specs are the same as vintage mustangs poplar wood as opposed to the other reissues being made of ash and basswood. They are also made in the USA like original vintage ones. The value of vintage ones does hold better than RI's though so in that sense it makes more sense to get one if you can.

the 65RI's are not made in USA.

where do some of these people get thier info? or do they just make up shit?

The wood accuracy is still correct.

I just assumed since it has an MSRP of 1100 that it had to be made in the USA to justify that because that is absurd for a Japanese guitar, I could get a Japanese Jaguar for that price or an actual vintage Mustang.

honeyiscool wrote:My Mustangs will one day be old Mustangs.

I was thinking about that today while I was eating Chinese food. Half the stuff that we think is crap is going to be classic in like 40 years.

Seriously, in 2050, there will be car shows where people are showing off their 2003 Escalades.

This made me smile.

I love self realizations while eating food.
What chinese?

jim93 wrote:I just assumed since it has an MSRP of 1100 that it had to be made in the USA

if it was made in america it would sell for $4,000 with a HSC.

jim93 wrote:that is absurd for a Japanese guitar, I could get a Japanese Jaguar for that price or an actual vintage Mustang.

LOL, INORITE?

honeyiscool wrote:My Mustangs will one day be old Mustangs.

I was thinking about that today while I was eating Chinese food. Half the stuff that we think is crap is going to be classic in like 40 years.

Seriously, in 2050, there will be car shows where people are showing off their 2003 Escalades.

You may be on to something there. When I was in high school in the mid-late 70s, the "new" guitars were considered greatly inferior to the "vintage (pre-CBS) Fenders. Actually, they probably still are, but since they're old and the even older pre-CBS stuff is priced so far beyond reach, the "next best thing" has steadily increased in price. Today, the '73 Tele Thinline I used to have (or any of several other 70s era Fenders that I've had over the years) would be worth big bucks. In the 70s - 80s, you could pick up early to mid 70s Strats and Teles for $300-350 all day long if you wanted to - a tenth of what you would expect to spend today.

Of course, there is a difference between "desirable vintage" and "old and not worth much", and it can be hard to predict what will be "hot" in 30 years. Had it not been for Nirvana, the early 70s Compstangs probably wouldn't be among the most expensive vintage short scales... Had Kurt instead favored a '67 Bronco, or a '73 Music Master, then those would have been the "hot" guitar... so unless you can predict who and what is going to be popular in the future, it's always going to be a bit of a gamble.

so, beginning in April eBay is going to take their cut off of the item price+shipping. this means on this kind of $10 item eBay will take the same amount as someone who is selling the item within the rules of ebay.

portugalwillie wrote:so, beginning in April eBay is going to take their cut off of the item price+shipping. this means on this kind of $10 item eBay will take the same amount as someone who is selling the item within the rules of ebay.

No mention of this on UK eBay - must be a US thing....for now.

portugalwillie wrote:so, beginning in April eBay is going to take their cut off of the item price+shipping. this means on this kind of $10 item eBay will take the same amount as someone who is selling the item within the rules of ebay.

It was bound to happen as more and more transactions passed and still broke the rules, rather than use money to find violators they were just going to increase fees for everyone. All sellers will just start raising prices to adjust.

jim93 wrote:All sellers will just start raising prices to adjust.

And there's the problem with eBay's relentless greedy-Bastardness in a nutshell.

Well it would be if it was factual. The truth is a lot of sellers have no choice but to swallow whatever increases eBay send their way because they need to have the lowest total price to be able to sell their stuff on eBay.

As for sellers trading in stuff with rarity value....well at least they won't have to put up with people mithering about how their total price breaks down (except they will, because some people are just never happy unless they've got some imagined injustice to get up-in-arms about).

I dont want to go into this further, but i doubt the sellers will just eat the increase.

In the history of economics I do not think the equilibrium price of a good has reacted completely inelastically to an increase in fees (like taxes / listing FV fees).

hotrodperlmutter wrote:i love how people always throw paypal on the case, like they're going to do fuck all.

The two times I've used them to resolve a grievance they've sorted it completely. One time I returned some clothing which arrived with damage not described and the seller only refunded the bid price when it was something like £10+£7 p&p, so postage was a significant portion of the costs. Paypal gave me the rest back. I paid the return postage, still.

The other time I bought a guitar type instrument, the type you see in fair trade 'world' shops, but it wasn't at all useable as an instrument and was entirely ornamental. The seller refused to refund and paypal got me the refund (bid+postage) and I wasn't sure if I'd have to return it or not. I waited a couple of weeks then threw it out (it was useless).

I understand they have a very pro-buyer way of doing that sort of thing, and as a seller you have to cover yourself carefully, but I've been happy with their 'resolution centre' both times I've had to use it.