Tell Me About Mustang Tremolo

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:01 am

light rail coyote wrote:
bubbles_horwitz wrote: different guitars are better suited to different strings, but what it really comes down to is what the player prefers.

no you are wrong and ignorant. you may "THINK" you prefer .09's on your guitar, but .11 are shortscale's true destined strings. you may beleive .09's are better, but that's only because you haven't tried hard enough to find the truth. havent you read the 10 commandments of string gauge usage. it's written in fucking stone dude

I'm glad someone is speaking sense.

Post by **dots** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:44 pm

bubbles_horwitz wrote:
dots wrote:
bubbles_horwitz wrote:say for 10's we have a diameter of 10 thousandths of an inch (on the high e string), while with 11's we have a diameter of 11 thousandths of an inch. the difference in mass per inch isn't very big (i know diameter isn't mass, but the effect .001" change in diameter will have on the mass is insignificant). the difference is more noticeable on the lower strings, but it's not nearly as much as you seem to want it to be.
i don't believe it has to have anything to do with how somebody "wants it to be" though. the fact is, if changing the diameter of the strings by infinitesimal amounts causes everything from neck bowing to intonation to saddle fit issues, obviously there's much more to the equation than "feel." that's not to say that how a guitarist likes the touch and tension to his/her fingers isn't important, but clearly you recognize that changing string gauge has many more implications than that, right?
yes, i realize that. my point is that string gauge won't make or break a guitar. a mustang isn't gonna suck with 10's and then be magically delicious with 11's. unless you happen to prefer 11's. in which case, any guitar will feel better with them.
right now i've got both my 22.5" musicmaster and my 24" jaguar strung up with 9's. there's no flopping going on. i have no tuning or buzzing issues. 'cause i set them up not to do that. i've tried lots of different strings on both of these guitars. even d'addario chromes, robroe style. and still, i always find myself back with 9's. it's what i like, and it works for me. which is my point. different guitars are better suited to different strings, but what it really comes down to is what the player prefers.

i think people are just playing to the averages here. and for the most part, heavier gauge strings are "better" suited to shorter scales. there are physical and mechanical reasons for this. . . fender put 11's on my av jag, and i think they know something about their guitars. of course how you play and how it feels to you are going to play a part; srv rocked 13's on strats. but i don't think there's anything wrong in telling somebody "this is how it's usually done" or "how it was designed" when they ask.

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:55 pm

Fender knows about its AV instruments, but HATs its others :( Sure my Jag-Stang had 9s on it.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:57 pm

the specs on the fender site mention 10's on avri and mim jags.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:58 pm

I'm gonna go with:

Silly Fender

They chose boring colours and the wrong strings. Why do they hate us?

Post by **dots** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:18 pm

very odd indeed. AND, not only did my avri jag come with 11's on it, but they were flatwound AND included a pack of specially made jaguar strings that i have not been able to find anywhere else since. they're basically a pack of fender's flatwound 11's with the G left unwound. still seeing if i can find them. . .

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:28 pm

I've not heard of them before, I've heard of strings being advertised as "Jaguar" strings, but couldn't figure it out, but I imagine that'll be it. What're they like to play?

Post by **dots** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:31 pm

i thought they were great, actually. . . i just wish they had a little more sustain.

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:33 pm

I've never used flatwounds, think I'll get some for my Jag when I get some money. I'll ask them to make me some up at the shop with a wound G as well.

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:19 pm

my Elvis Jazzy came with an extra set of whats called "Jaguar/Jazzmaster" strings. are these the same thing?

dodgedartdave · Post by **dodgedartdave** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:30 pm

Sublimedo wrote:my Elvis Jazzy came with an extra set of whats called "Jaguar/Jazzmaster" strings. are these the same thing?

No. Jaguar strings are a thicker gauge that are needed on short scale guitars. I can't imagine how thick the strings are on Mandocasters!

light rail coyote · Post by **light rail coyote** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:33 pm

dodgedartdave wrote:
Sublimedo wrote:my Elvis Jazzy came with an extra set of whats called "Jaguar/Jazzmaster" strings. are these the same thing?
No. Jaguar strings are a thicker gauge that are needed on short scale guitars. I can't imagine how thick the strings are on Mandocasters!

when are you going to be illuminated to the great everpresent truth of the word of string gauge correctness. It's in stone dude, fucking stone. 11's on shortscale. you just need to look harder for the truth. end your ignorance

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm

did'nt kurdt use 12's?

dodgedartdave · Post by **dodgedartdave** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:57 pm

Fran wrote:did'nt kurdt use 12's?

I use 12's on my acoustics. Is that kosher?

Post by **dots** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:16 pm

Sublimedo wrote:my Elvis Jazzy came with an extra set of whats called "Jaguar/Jazzmaster" strings. are these the same thing?

i think so maybe. . .

light rail coyote · Post by **light rail coyote** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:22 pm

yes, that is acceptable. .12's belong on acoustics, as long as they're phospher bronze

dodgedartdave · Post by **dodgedartdave** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:45 pm

light rail coyote wrote: as long as they're phospher bronze

Is there any other type? I use either Martin SP's or D-A-Dear-EE-ooo's.

light rail coyote · Post by **light rail coyote** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:50 pm

Well my stoner cousin puts electric strings on his acoustin, but he makes all sorts of questionable decisions

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:02 pm

light rail coyote wrote:
dodgedartdave wrote:
Sublimedo wrote:my Elvis Jazzy came with an extra set of whats called "Jaguar/Jazzmaster" strings. are these the same thing?
No. Jaguar strings are a thicker gauge that are needed on short scale guitars. I can't imagine how thick the strings are on Mandocasters!
when are you going to be illuminated to the great everpresent truth of the word of string gauge correctness. It's in stone dude, fucking stone. 11's on shortscale. you just need to look harder for the truth. end your ignorance

lush vocabulary, mot. I actually put 12s with the wound G on most of my shortscales. But the pack that came with jazzy actually had "Jaguar/Jazzmaster strings" printed on the set, which is rather odd with the difference in scale 'n shiet.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:06 pm

light rail coyote wrote:Well my stoner cousin puts electric strings on his acoustin, but he makes all sorts of questionable decisions

i sometimes do that when i'm too lazy to find nickel acoustic strings. i just don't like phosphor bronze, it corrodes too quickly and smells bad.