Fran wrote:Missed this. Interesting thread.
I'd like to think it will work for Doog but whilst there may be some improvement i think a big part of the sound he wants is down to the way a Strat is constructed.
Imo, the Jazzy bridge/tailpiece do not encourage a snappy sound and on Strats the strings are very close to the body and the trem also employs a sustain block, which i believe changes the sound somewhat significantly. I tried various pickups in my Jazzmasters and the guitar always sounded 'spongey', where as Strats have more attack and seem to punch louder.
It's more about tonal response, I know it's never gonna sound or exactly like a Strat but it's definately sorted out my issues with the stock sound.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:25 pm
by Doog
After all the time and effort put in, I realised:
- I'd still need to screw the Strat pickup in somehow, as the JM cover won't push down on it enough to hold it tightly.
- The Jazzmaster cover can't be pushed flush against the body or it squashes the Strat pickup cables
- I probably need to shim the neck a little more to get enough clearance, it's still a bit close.
Maybe I'll get a custom scratchy made or something, it's gonna be a massive pain in the arse to do it the way I wanted. I guess I could always put a "blanking plate" on the back of the current scratchy to cover up the big ol' hole and make it slightly more atttractive.
I somehow managed to move the 3-way switch slightly when tightening everything up before my gig at the weekend, and unbeknownst to me, it was making contact with the shielding paint stuff in the route and shorting out. So I didn't even get to use it, grrr.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:44 pm
by finboy
Doog wrote:
After all the time and effort put in, I realised:
- I'd still need to screw the Strat pickup in somehow, as the JM cover won't push down on it enough to hold it tightly.
- The Jazzmaster cover can't be pushed flush against the body or it squashes the Strat pickup cables
- I probably need to shim the neck a little more to get enough clearance, it's still a bit close.
Maybe I'll get a custom scratchy made or something, it's gonna be a massive pain in the arse to do it the way I wanted. I guess I could always put a "blanking plate" on the back of the current scratchy to cover up the big ol' hole and make it slightly more atttractive.
I somehow managed to move the 3-way switch slightly when tightening everything up before my gig at the weekend, and unbeknownst to me, it was making contact with the shielding paint stuff in the route and shorting out. So I didn't even get to use it, grrr.
bite my method y0
you will likely need to trim the pickguard and get some longer screws to secure the plate to the body, but it will save you from cutting a custom guard.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:50 am
by Doog
Eeeeenteresting, what model bridge/trem is the plate from?
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:57 am
by Progrockabuse
looks almost like the bridge from a tele style bigsby kit.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:08 am
by Doog
Looks like it, cheers!
Will give it some thought, dunno how much I wanna put holes in the body at the mo..
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:01 pm
by finboy
i snagged a version from allparts, you will need to make some screw holes unless you can use some double sided tape and make some adapter plates to bolt it to the pick guard.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by Doog
Seeing as it's for Tele bridge pickups, I won't be able to attach the Strat pickup to it either, so it'll just serve as a cosmetic enhancement.. probably better off getting a scratchy made or doing something else maverick..
Cheers anyways though, dude!
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:09 pm
by Doog
Doesn't look toooo bad, defo better than without. I'll have to pickup another set of covers and do a neater one at some point..
It was a total fluke that it fit properly- I screwed the Strat pickup in at a more-or-less random angled last time I worked on it.. but somehow, the cover I did ages ago fit perfectly with it in that position. A few bits of sponge to stop the JM cover squashing the pickup cables, and bandabiiing..
The action is more-or-less bareable now, and the output/height difference between the two pups is very marginal.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:12 pm
by Mike
That looks immense.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:12 pm
by Thom
Looks really good Doog
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:52 pm
by Doog
Thanks chaps, I'm fairly pleased that such a quick fix made for much nicer cosmetics.
Jagermeister wrote:Perhaps, in which case I think someone should record a demo comparing the two, to ensure that no one is talking out their ass here
EAT IT:
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Admittedly they're 3 months apart, but I included the neck pickup sound for reference both times and there's not a huge difference in sound. Same amp settings. The Strat pup sounds way nicer in person, sounds kinda weird on the vid, the amp was set a lil' too bright/thin.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:44 pm
by dots
interesting. i don't know that i like it, but i definitely do not haet right off the bad. nice match-job!
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:20 pm
by Doog
One final comparison with proper close mic'D action: Jazzmaster bridge position versus Doogcaster/Tele bridge position (MIM Tele pickup)- other gear the same.