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FYI for anyone else thinking about this (in the US) You can get Grabber Orange acrylic (after the Mustang car) in aerosol cans, either as a MODEL PAINT, or for car TOUCH UPS.

rodvonbon wrote:

Black Cat Bone wrote:Given this assumption would a either fiesta red or dakota red red be near enough for the comp stripe? see them here before and after clear coat: http://www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk/lacquer.html

Thanks once again for all the good advice people!

I layed both a Fiesta Red and a Dakota Red guitar next to the stripes and neither is close, really.
I would say though that if the color you get is really orange do dakota and if it's really yellow do fiesta, if those are your only options.
The reissue comp orange body color is way more orange than the old guitars and looks like they used dakota.
And like I said before the body color of the old ones seems to effect the stripe color and they've faded so much it's hard to say. I would think Fender didn't mix up a batch of some "new" color just to do theses stripes, so I would guess they used fiesta.

After talking to an old friend that worked at Fender in the 60's and 70's Here is the low down on the comp. orange guitars and basses. Fenders Dakota red was used for the stripe, this is a fact, Fenders Dakota red was slightly transparent, the stripes were painted over the orange giving the Dakota red a orange base, giving it a different look than the dakota red guitars as they used a white primer base, the trick is to find a dakota red that has the transparent effect fenders did and let the orange come through and guitar re-ranch has it. Hope this helped.

Here is that link: http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/dakredaer.html

matocaster wrote: After talking to an old friend that worked at Fender in the 60's and 70's Here is the low down on the comp. orange guitars and basses. Fenders Dakota red was used for the stripe, this is a fact, Fenders Dakota red was slightly transparent, the stripes were painted over the orange giving the Dakota red a orange base, giving it a different look than the dakota red guitars as they used a white primer base, the trick is to find a dakota red that has the transparent effect fenders did and let the orange come through and guitar

Thats quite interesting and something I did not know. I can deffinatly tell that the color is not as solid as other comp guitars. That plus fading makes it hard to judge what color was used without first hand knowledge.
I have a feeling you are going to be a valued member of the boards.

rodvonbon wrote:

matocaster wrote: After talking to an old friend that worked at Fender in the 60's and 70's Here is the low down on the comp. orange guitars and basses. Fenders Dakota red was used for the stripe, this is a fact, Fenders Dakota red was slightly transparent, the stripes were painted over the orange giving the Dakota red a orange base, giving it a different look than the dakota red guitars as they used a white primer base, the trick is to find a dakota red that has the transparent effect fenders did and let the orange come through and guitar

Thats quite interesting and something I did not know. I can deffinatly tell that the color is not as solid as other comp guitars. That plus fading makes it hard to judge what color was used without first hand knowledge.
I have a feeling you are going to be a valued member of the boards.

Hey thanks! And no prob man, just happy to be here! But I cheated on that one, had to go to the source haha this friend of mine worked at Fender from '67 to '74 so I get to tap his knowledge about that stuff.

matocaster wrote:

rodvonbon wrote:

Black Cat Bone wrote:Given this assumption would a either fiesta red or dakota red red be near enough for the comp stripe? see them here before and after clear coat: http://www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk/lacquer.html

Thanks once again for all the good advice people!

I layed both a Fiesta Red and a Dakota Red guitar next to the stripes and neither is close, really.
I would say though that if the color you get is really orange do dakota and if it's really yellow do fiesta, if those are your only options.
The reissue comp orange body color is way more orange than the old guitars and looks like they used dakota.
And like I said before the body color of the old ones seems to effect the stripe color and they've faded so much it's hard to say. I would think Fender didn't mix up a batch of some "new" color just to do theses stripes, so I would guess they used fiesta.

After talking to an old friend that worked at Fender in the 60's and 70's Here is the low down on the comp. orange guitars and basses. Fenders Dakota red was used for the stripe, this is a fact, Fenders Dakota red was slightly transparent, the stripes were painted over the orange giving the Dakota red a orange base, giving it a different look than the dakota red guitars as they used a white primer base, the trick is to find a dakota red that has the transparent effect fenders did and let the orange come through and guitar re-ranch has it. Hope this helped.

Here is that link: http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/dakredaer.html

Rodvonbon, Matocaster, quite literally I am spunking wads of thanks at this moment. Rod for your eye witness account of aged Comp Orange and Mat for your insider techie knowledge - dudes i owe ya a pint if ever we meet. Looks like semi clear dakota red now, however I'll get the comp orange first do a test spray and post up the results to check the end result. Anyone ever considered profiles of classic finishes? this is what we have here... makes sense for those who google hereafter to save time..

rodvonbon wrote:I layed both a Fiesta Red and a Dakota Red guitar next to the stripes and neither is close, really.
I would say though that if the color you get is really orange do dakota and if it's really yellow do fiesta, if those are your only options.
The reissue comp orange body color is way more orange than the old guitars and looks like they used dakota.
And like I said before the body color of the old ones seems to effect the stripe color and they've faded so much it's hard to say. I would think Fender didn't mix up a batch of some "new" color just to do theses stripes, so I would guess they used fiesta.

Okay finally got my hands on the paint from the Post Office and it's definitely a new-Comp Orange as opposed to a faded yellow-comp (which is my ideal) so I think it's a case of let nature take its course on this one. Still nice colour nonetheless:

great orange, should turn out great

Have you started the painting yet or are you waiting a bit for better weather?

James wrote:Have you started the painting yet or are you waiting a bit for better weather?

Not yet - in two minds as the body was redrilled for pickguard holes ideally and i want'ed to get a Guard first so i can properly fill and sand the appropriate holes. As they won't be on show though it's not strictly required but I'm a bit anal like that. Waiting for payday next monday then will see what that Bluesjay chap on ebay has in stock if i can't source one from the classifieds.

Yup the weather would help for sure so hope to be in a position to do this within a monh or so. Should be oppotunity to source the guts of it too by then. On that note i need to compile a list of the parts inside a Mustang - something i know nowt about. Will buy quality new parts i think.

Can't wait to see it with the floyd rose on.











I kid, I kid!

this post has been Edited for retardo-spell problems due to seeing the supersuckers last night and having to get up for work too early

Here's my list so far if anyone can add to it:

Shielding tape / foil to complete shielding.

Some wire.

NeutrickSwitchcraft Jack socket

Two Grolsch bottle 'washers' for straplocks.

White Number 1 Stretch Strap

Machineheads - possibly vintage but practicality required.

Some electrical bits of unknown type and spec.

UPDATE:

Having got and started refurbishing a great Tort guard from James and slightly flumoxed over a comp orange '65 stang I decided that the pickguard is to dictate the colour...i.e no like orange and tort.

I'm pretty fond of blue and tort, and the colour needs to be available from manchesterguitartech.co.uk and be solid. Halp a bro make up his mind with any photos. I think it's between sonic or daphne in my head but be good to get yr opinions and photos to help decide.

This weekend I will be updating with all the major and lengthy refurbishing that's happened to the body and pickguard.

NO NO NO NO.

Blue and Tort is minging. Why not go for a White or Black?

white and tort
white and tort
white and tort
white and tort
white and tort
so much classier than blue and tort.

Black and tort!

has to be white or black, really.

but: MGT does shell pink...

Mike wrote:

A thing of beauty

Yah I hear what you're saying.....I believe the body was originally white based on what was under the shielding, the neck appears to have some blue flecks left on it from whatever neck pocket that was attached to. Black is awesome but I'm still gutted to this day i wussed out on a perfect black and tort mustang for £535 on ebay...

but look!:

I don't get it, I think it's a really unattractive combination. That colour would look so much nicer with a white pickguard.

Judging from the poll results there's a silent majority thus far for daphne - who are these mysterious members....

I suppose for me I kinda like some idiosyncracy with my guitars. I agree a white scratch plate looks very nice but it also seems a bit staid too. Do I want to hang out with the classy kids or the cool kids?