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Can you post more photos of that Jag?
It looks awesome! What is it?

I'm guessing that guitar has been modified at some point. Either to add the TOM or to change buckers to single coils. Fender Japan do way more variations than Fender US, but they don't do little tiny runs or anything. The ones I listed are basically everything with the exception of a few colours. Like they used to do some kind of Gun metal finish on the HH Jags, I dunno if they still do those.

They actually have some classed as "Japanese custom shop", as far as I know they are just tiny variations in very limited runs. Diff bridges, pups colours etc.

Do you have any links or anything? Not that I don't believe you, I just think you're wrong.

If you keep an eye on the sites that sell the secondhand Japanese stuff you see them on there quite often. That's where I first saw the Beck orange compstang reissue. I'll try to find some links. I only really noticed them when I was looking for the B+B one.

Second hand is a different issue. I know that Japan has a custom shop and if you pay them enough they'll do whatever you want, but that's not an official release.

The stock changes all the time.

Example of a colour variation compared to what's available outside Japan.

Mustang Comp Bass

Bound body bass with matching headstock

These have all been offerd in the Japanese market as standard. Just like my Jag. Colour combo etc not available elsewhere. They change their lines very regularly, different couours each year just like the US thinskins.

EDIT: That link wasn't the Fender Japan Custom shop, it was just a link from the Fender Japan website to the US Custom Shop.

White on white stang

and the tasty orange one

The model number listed is the official product code. These aren't custom. The sheer variety of Japanese stuff is shocking and envy enducing.

They're not actual custom shop they're just referred to as that. I don't know why they don't just say limited run etc.

You can stop posting links to the Fender Japan website. I already did that a page ago. I know that Fender Japan make stuff for the domestic market that doesn't get distributed outside Japan. I have one of those Jags. But I was all over those things a couple of years ago and they don't produce that many variations of the Jag. They occasionally change the colour options but they don't do other changes to the ones they've already released. If you go back one page you can see a list I made of all the Jag variations they've done which is accurate apart from probably a few colour changes.

Gotcha. The links were just to show the sheer variety that they have produced, most of which I never saw at the time of their release or on any official list. These aren't very common either but they are out there. The B+B were available in very limited quantities before they were on the standard product list.

I guess with the increasing popularity of Jags, Jazzies and Mustangs it'll be worth keeping an eye on them in the near future too.

I agreed with your list, I was just replying to:

Gavin wrote:Fender Japan do way more variations than Fender US, but they don't do little tiny runs or anything.

Actually my list is on page 2, so that's two pages ago.

I reckon Sub should take the neck off his Jag and see if it's a custom shop. Or if it's routed for buckers. I don't know if he could check the radius, maybe just by feel?

Basically I reckon his jag could be three things:

1) It's a custom shop.

2) Someone put that TOM on it, which would mean the neck would have the wrong radius.

3) It's an HH and someone's put single coils in it.

Otherwise, I dunno what the fuck is going on and maybe Thomas is right and the Japanese Custom Shop does small runs.

Gavin wrote: 3) It's an HH and someone's put single coils in it.

A few people have done that mod on their Mex ones so that's a possibility. Until we see under the hood we'll never know.

The TOM that's on my HH has a matched raduis. It doesn't seem as flat as a regular one. I tried to snap a pic but it's hard to see.

I thought that was the radius was the difference between the Gibson Tune-o-matic and the Fender Adjust-a-matic?

I'm guessing that they make TOMs in different radii, but I think that the Fender ones are all 9.5". The website says that the HH Jags have a 250R, which when converted to inches is 9.8, which I suppose could mean the radius is 9.75", but since the CPs are 9.5" I reckon they're probably all 9.5".

You guys are proper bummers. Don't you have anything else to do on a Sunday?

Not really.

Btw, I just looked it up and apparently TOMs are generally 12" radius.

Mike wrote:You guys are proper bummers. Don't you have anything else to do on a Sunday?

Yeah, I should really be running around the internet calling people bummers for wasting their time instead of wasting my time.

Gavin wrote:I just looked it up and apparently TOMs are generally 12" radius.

of course they are. those are the gibson ones. the Fender ones are not tune-o-matics, they're adjust-a-matics like paul said and they have a radius complimentary to the fender necks.

also, Sub is no dummy, I'm sure he'd be aware if his guitar was modded or not.