XII - Page 4

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:46 pm

astro wrote:What about cannibalizing a Squier Venus XII for the bridge and pickups? I don't know how much these are worth so I have no idea if that would be cost effective.

I would like one of those Venus XII. More affordable than an original XII. I would love to see a shootout between a Fender XII and a Venus XII

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:55 pm

Oh man, I hadn't even noticed the Venus guts before. I would be leery of hacking a future collectible though. Better to hear back from Curtis and make my own covers. I put on the filler coat last night, so the next step would have been priming (had I been going with straight white). The burst will give me practice. I am going to try using some leftover butterscotch blonde in the damaged areas, but just to see what it looks like. I have tried it before, and obscuring the grain makes it look like a tacky Coney Island pinball machine.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:57 pm

do an burst-under-solid how to! i want to do burst on something...

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:32 pm

I would be really tempted to find a used Jagmaster, buy a 12 string neck and bridge and make a poor man's XII. Would have to buy new pickups and pickguard. but it would be fun. The Jagmaster can take the 25.5" neck no problem. I am not sure about bridge placement or whether I would have to fill in the hole from the strat trem. I guess I could get the Strat XII bridge or Gotoh 12 string bridge

Excuse the crude Photoshop here

tomin8r · Post by **tomin8r** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:08 am

taylornutt wrote:
Excuse the crude Photoshop here

For some reason, I now have total GAS for that thing, in all of its bastardized glory!

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:32 am

tomin8r wrote: For some reason, I now have total GAS for that thing, in all of its bastardized glory!

Jagmaster XII (not to scale)

Original Fender XII

I am definitely no Leo Fender but it might work. The hard part will be keeping costs down. I wish i had not sold my other Jagmaster now. DuuuuuooH!

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:42 am

ugly shit is ugly, but i think you might be onto something nutt.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:52 am

venus XII is perfect how it is. I like it better than the fender.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:12 am

endsjustifymeans wrote:venus XII is perfect how it is. I like it better than the fender.

+1 to GNAR!

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:48 pm

Well, the burst idea is out. I am out of butterscotch, and I decided I didn't want to sand all of the walnut stain off because I didn't want to lose any more wood than I have to. The good news is that I can paint this weekend and it will be done much more quickly with just primer/white/clears.

The first pic set shows the original damage, as well as the head fix. I highlighted the seam on the headstock, but it is hard to find, and will be even better buried under XX coats. I bought a silkscreen decal on Reranch, which will look bitching.

The second pic set was taken this morning. You can see that I filled in the swimming pool with wood, and used a rock hard epoxy compound to fill in cracks and transitions. The spot on the back is wood with a skim coat of epoxy on top. I think the tone will be fine, but it is what it is. The back has all these great scratches that will get covered over. I am leaving a bunch of dents in it. It's going to look every bit of 40 years old. A lot of the surface was still yellow from Fullerplast and the original burst, so I mixed some yellow pigment into the nitro filler to make it consistent. I am going to have to machine the back string plate out of aluminum. The real piece is made of pure unobtanium.

As you can see (in 5 across, 4 down) the brass plates fit perfectly (if snug) in my new cavities. I did not use a router for any of it. I used a bandsaw to cut the wood out and hand sanded it. There were a few edges I had to chisel. You would be amazed at the clean edges a sharp chisel is capable of making.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:56 pm

looking stellar. can't wait to see how she looks painted.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:02 pm

jings, it's going to be amazing...

dibs if you sell it!

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:23 pm

DGNR8 wrote:The real piece is made of pure unobtanium.

rolf

I love to watch papa dgnr8 work. One day maybe I'll have the cashola to afford an archtop restored by his crafty hands.

tomin8r · Post by **tomin8r** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:54 pm

Damn DGNR8, that body is starting to come along great now that the huge wounds are filled in. Keep it up mate, I'd love to see this painted.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:03 pm

Sooo good.
I love your threads.

When I see those segmented images of progress and skill I get the old school Batman sound effects in my ears

KAPOW

BLAM

BOOOIINNGG

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:42 pm

yesssssssssssssss

bassintom · Post by **bassintom** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:26 am

Magic

Chris, you do some pretty amazing work. Thanks for progresspics.

astro · Post by **astro** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:51 am

How about using the covers from a mustang bass pickup? I don't know if they are the same dimensions. I have 2 mustang basses so I can measure the covers if you want.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:23 am

i've heard they do work, i believe someone on offset got into a big debate with novack about it. from what i remember they are 2mm bigger on the outer diameter so you have to trim the guard a bit to make them fit.

Post by **Hurb** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:30 am

stewart wrote:jings, it's going to be amazing...

dibs if you sell it!

second dibs