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less_cunning wrote:i think teh Bucklandz pedalboard evolution is quite interesting.

Unlike the music.


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I think you could get pretty close with your amp if you added some digital delay and digital reverb. Lots of ringing chords and open strings, chiming melodies, etc.

They do compress their guitars on the album, but so does everybody else. Not sure if you'd want to really use a compressor pedal live...

If you want to go in this sort of playing direction, I think it'd be better to learn some stuff by players like Johnny Marr (the smiths, duhh) for the chime, Neal Halstead (slowdive) or robin guthrie (cocteau twins) for the atmosphere.

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hugh wrote:The Edge makes me rage. Touring with 20+ beautiful vintage guitars sent into rack effects to make three notes sound like digital mush. Fuck.

Fuck.

Proof that there is no god.

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wtf, he can't turn on his effects or put guitars down by himself, he has to have to have a personal slave!?

What’s the point of all that extensive touring unless it makes you enough money to hire minions? If I were him I’d have a dedicated effects minion and another to lift my guitar, having the same guy do both just demonstrates that he hasn’t toured enough / made enough money

Aeon wrote:If you want to go in this sort of playing direction, I think it'd be better to learn some stuff by players like Johnny Marr (the smiths, duhh) for the chime, Neal Halstead (slowdive) or robin guthrie (cocteau twins) for the atmosphere.

+ it's less... flammable here.

ekwatts wrote:

less_cunning wrote:i think teh Bucklandz pedalboard evolution is quite interesting.

Unlike the music.


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okay. fair enough. point taken. but if i understand yr assessment. that it hasn't evolved much. why change the pedalboard. at all. that's really my main question.

i really abhor Boss pedals personally but i do like some bands that (predominately) use them.

less_cunning wrote:

ekwatts wrote:

less_cunning wrote:i think teh Bucklandz pedalboard evolution is quite interesting.

Unlike the music.


zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZING!

okay. fair enough. point taken. but if i understand yr assessment. that it hasn't evolved much. why change the pedalboard. at all. that's really my main question.

i really abhor Boss pedals personally but i do like some bands that (predominately) use them.

Noob mistake number one: Adding more pedals, however interesting and different will make little difference if the music they're used on lacks any real power in the first place. That's the same mentality as the 80s metallers who thought people would suck their own cocks dry to the sound of a trillion notes per second.

ekwatts wrote: Noob mistake number one: Adding more pedals, however interesting and different will make little difference if the music they're used on lacks any real power in the first place. That's the same mentality as the 80s metallers who thought people would suck their own cocks dry to the sound of a trillion notes per second.

so you're saying teh Bucklandz could have just stayed w/ the Boss pedals & it wouldn't have made an anthill's worth of difference. okay. point taken. so where does this "power"come from.

They have a lot of sonic maximizer

ekwatts wrote:

less_cunning wrote:

ekwatts wrote: Unlike the music.


zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZING!

okay. fair enough. point taken. but if i understand yr assessment. that it hasn't evolved much. why change the pedalboard. at all. that's really my main question.

i really abhor Boss pedals personally but i do like some bands that (predominately) use them.

Noob mistake number one: Having loads of pedals because it looks good

Noob mistake number two: Paying a lot for a valve amp then completely fucking up the signal using about 12 pedals.
Noob mistake number three: Being preoccupied with 'whats cool' brands/FX.
Noob mistake number four: Neglected playing technique and started to hide behind delays and novelty FX.
Noob mistake number five: Being lost in the band mix and wondering why.

Noob status lost: Strips set up to guitar>Tubescreamer>Amp Realization keeping it simple with good technique is always the best.

Shit I'm a noob, I've made everyone of those 'mistakes' to quite a large extent...I hope everyone does!

Still not used a pedal in about 6 months, just concentrating on playing...at fucking last *idiot*

I don't agree with Fran. Everyone eventually finds something that works for them. For some people it is simplicity as he seems to be enjoying at the moment. I'm in this camp also pretty much. I always find myself coming back to the following:

1. A spanky Fender guitar
2. My Marshall 6100. Clean Channel, Crunch Channel.
3. I could pretty much survive with only that but I also have a Trem and Delay pedal I built on my board for some variety.

Some people are fantastic technical guitar players who use Effects as a part of their sound. They are too numerous to list, but the two are not mutually exclusive as Fran suggests. Doog, of our parish uses a few pedals and switches them up every now and then - has his playing suffered as a result? I wouldn't like to put myself up against him in a swordfight.

Talking in absolutes does noone any good - everyone has different tastes, but we are all the same.

i completely understand Fran's point. & his rhetoric. & dealing w/ rhetoric, talking in absolutes is the easiest row to hoe.