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Narco Martenot wrote:Look at the frets -- they look nearly flat.

i think it's just you. really.

Shaguar wrote:...and it had a STRAT JACK.

lulz

If you say so.

Narco Martenot wrote:Thanks for the photo. I really love this guitar. Some small things I noticed:

-Is it just me, or does that guitar appear to have a Gibson fretboard radius?
-The fretboard overhang -- I don't think I've seen a shortscale Fender with this?
-Look at the sloppy position of the screws around the pickguard -- some of them seem to be almost hanging over the bevelled edges, one of them actually is

How much do you think Kurt was charged for that guitar? Where is this guitar now?

I've seen the Cross project before -- a really cool guitar with a much nicer looking pickguard than the original.

-Yes, it would be sloppy work to custom build a guitar with missmatching fretboard/bridge radii.
-Yes, the fret board overhangs, but it isn't a Fender is it. Also has a maple truss rod cover. That's probably just how Ferrington makes his necks. But if you want a Fender guitar, buy a Fender guitar.
-The screws are pretty close, is that a bad thing? I'll bow to your superior observational skills. The screw near the tone knob is too close to the edge. In fact it's kinda peering over the edge.

I doubt that it was a cheap guitar, I'd bet it cost between $1000-$2000.
And I read that Kurt and Courtney, between them were spending $1200 per day on drugs, a couple of grand for a guitar wouldn't a big deal.
And maybe tax-deductable?

astrozombie wrote:

Narco Martenot wrote:Look at the frets -- they look nearly flat.

i think it's just you. really.

Not at all, they do look very flat, almost like a its a computer render and not a real guitar.

James wrote:

astrozombie wrote:

Narco Martenot wrote:Look at the frets -- they look nearly flat.

i think it's just you. really.

Not at all, they do look very flat, almost like a its a computer render and not a real guitar.

No no no no, it doesn't make any sense. If Kurt liked Mustang necks, he must have noticed the radius... the back of the neck is only half of how it feels...

astrozombie wrote:

James wrote:

astrozombie wrote: i think it's just you. really.

Not at all, they do look very flat, almost like a its a computer render and not a real guitar.

No no no no, it doesn't make any sense. If Kurt liked Mustang necks, he must have noticed the radius... the back of the neck is only half of how it feels...

But we're not talking about the radius (which itself looks quite flat) we're talking about the frets.

Looking at that part of the picture the radius looks similar to a Gibson (to match the bridge) and the frets look very low. Maybe he didn't really care about the vintage Fender radius.

Here are the pics, with a mighty fine zoom option.

Someone should take some screen grabs !!

http://www.sonigate.com/pt/product/show ... r-Sunburst

aaaand it still looks like the fucked up the neck pick up placement

How is that fucked up? Having the neck pickup where the 24th fret would be is usually considered a good thing because of its harmonic properties

Nick wrote:How is that fucked up? Having the neck pickup where the 24th fret would be is usually considered a good thing because of its harmonic properties

One of the reasons super strats and shred machines have no timbre in my opinion.

AddamInsane wrote:

Narco Martenot wrote:Thanks for the photo. I really love this guitar. Some small things I noticed:

-Is it just me, or does that guitar appear to have a Gibson fretboard radius?
-The fretboard overhang -- I don't think I've seen a shortscale Fender with this?
-Look at the sloppy position of the screws around the pickguard -- some of them seem to be almost hanging over the bevelled edges, one of them actually is

How much do you think Kurt was charged for that guitar? Where is this guitar now?

I've seen the Cross project before -- a really cool guitar with a much nicer looking pickguard than the original.

-Yes, it would be sloppy work to custom build a guitar with missmatching fretboard/bridge radii.
-Yes, the fret board overhangs, but it isn't a Fender is it. Also has a maple truss rod cover. That's probably just how Ferrington makes his necks. But if you want a Fender guitar, buy a Fender guitar.
-The screws are pretty close, is that a bad thing? I'll bow to your superior observational skills. The screw near the tone knob is too close to the edge. In fact it's kinda peering over the edge.

I doubt that it was a cheap guitar, I'd bet it cost between $1000-$2000.
And I read that Kurt and Courtney, between them were spending $1200 per day on drugs, a couple of grand for a guitar wouldn't a big deal.
And maybe tax-deductable?

I wasn't shitting on the guitar is that's what you thought. I was pointing out things that I had never noticed before, and things that I have never seen mentioned in the description of the guitar. The screwholes are unacceptable to me, though.

finboy wrote:aaaand it still looks like the fucked up the neck pick up placement

It is further away from the neck than it should be, isn't it? I assume this is more "correct", but considering it's a replica everything should be exact.

I want to see some high-resolution pictures.

Nick wrote:How is that fucked up? Having the neck pickup where the 24th fret would be is usually considered a good thing because of its harmonic properties

The neck pickup on Kurt's actual one was positioned a tad closer to the end of the neck.

James wrote:

Looking at that part of the picture the radius looks similar to a Gibson (to match the bridge) and the frets look very low. Maybe he didn't really care about the vintage Fender radius.

You're absolutely right, it makes sense now, He used Japanese strats because he liked the small frets..

maybe he liked the way a gibson played but more how the fender sounded.

This is becoming like the jagstang days but....

.... as long as the body and guard routing isn't dead tight you could probably drill some mounting holes next to the others - neck side, and shift it along almost to where it needs to be. Because it has a pickup mount, you may get away with it. Anyways....

Other things I've noticed....

2 Strings trees ?
I think the original Tom was angled ?
No switch on the bottom plate ? (could be right)
No Scrap button on lower horn ? (would have been a nice touch)
Gaffa ??????

Yes, his guitar had an angled bridge and one string tree.

Just to be an asshole for fun: the headstock decal seems to slightly different; and the body finish is way off -- the sunburst does not have the errors (maybe it was just worn?) and opaque yellow that the original had. The bridge finish doesn't appear to be the same (unless its worn on the top), and there is a lack of rusty screws. The pre-distressed body is also not very accurate.

Does anyone know if Fender had access to the actual guitar to clone it, or did they go off of photos and footage?

Yeah, the decal is a bit odd... hmmm

I quite like the finish & relic, even if it's not true to the original. From the photo it looks pretty convincing.

Can someone explain the neck ? It was replaced with 24" strat neck ?

Were there 24" Strat necks? It looks stock, except for the headstock shape, which appears to be smaller than other 1965 Jaguars that I have seen?