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there is no defense for these being fender and not squier. stop trolling brah

This shit is REDONKULOUS. New Super-Sonics are somehow NOT good news?!

If Fender reissued the Starcaster semihollow, there'd be BUTTNERDS complaining that it wasn't a CV squier.

theshadowofseattle wrote:Or you whiney nerds can just deal with the fact that there are more Super-Sonics out there.

BOO HOO THE NECK PICKUP IS ANGLED. It's not like you were going to leave them stock anyway, because EVERY FUCKING GUITAR NEEDS WIDE RANGE HUMBUCKERS BECAUSE I JERK OFF TO SONIC YOUTH

OH BOO HOO THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE. Yeah, they'll be spendy for the first TWO FUCKING MONTHS before they're all the fuck over eBay.

You guys are like the equally irrational polar opposite of the dudes who sand "Squier" off of their headstocks. You're hating on the guitar for being a FENDER?!?

I didn't want more Super-Sonics out there. Part of the mystique was being in the exclusive club! And, I'll have you know, my Super-Sonic is stock!

$800 for an inferior Mexican made version is a rip off. They could've fixed things (made a hardtail bridge, moved the selector switch location) but instead made dumb changes. Heaven forbid people be disappointed at Fender being stupid! But no, lets all get on our knees and blow Fender for giving us what we don't want. No complaining! All hail Fender!

theshadowofseattle wrote:This shit is REDONKULOUS. New Super-Sonics are somehow NOT good news?!

If Fender reissued the Starcaster semihollow, there'd be BUTTNERDS complaining that it wasn't a CV squier.

possibly

supersonic and the 51 are glorious squier master race

fender saw two sought after cheap gems and exploited it instead of going squier again

starcaster is kind of different. i would rather cut off my own head than play reissue wrhbs though

gofive wrote:I didn't want more Super-Sonics out there. Part of the mystique was being in the exclusive club!

gofive wrote:$800 for an inferior Mexican made version is a rip off.

IT HASN'T EVEN COME OUT YET. BY WHAT MAGIC FORESIGHT CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT IT IS INFERIOR?

basically i would say i want every guitar to be manufactured in numbers so high that any guitar is worth 200 dollarydoos

theshadowofseattle wrote:

gofive wrote:$800 for an inferior Mexican made version is a rip off.

IT HASN'T EVEN COME OUT YET. BY WHAT MAGIC FORESIGHT CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT IT IS INFERIOR?

mij > mim

science

George wrote:mij > mim

science

How is this at all different from the Fender > Squier logic?

its not

i mean its similar i guess

mic (cv) > mim

and the old supersonic was mij, if you needed the clarity

theshadowofseattle wrote:

gofive wrote:$800 for an inferior Mexican made version is a rip off.

IT HASN'T EVEN COME OUT YET. BY WHAT MAGIC FORESIGHT CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT IT IS INFERIOR?

slurp slurp give me more Fender!

peanutbutter plz. From your post in the "post your shortscales" thread, my Squier-to-Fender ratio is actually double yours.

OH NO JAZZMASTER PICKUP

Like most problems, this can be solved by throwing money at it. Doesn't require modifications to the routs or body.

That Bass VI made me pretty excited, for a moment, but I doubt it will stand up to my Ultra VI. A year ago, I would have started saving my pennies.

I guess I'll just have to check it out at NAMM.

AT LEAST IT HAS A USABLE SWITCH. Yeah I said it. Fuck some little square slider switches, I need to make quick decisions onstage!

Grant wrote:

OH NO JAZZMASTER PICKUP

Like most problems, this can be solved by throwing money at it. Doesn't require modifications to the routs or body.

Yes but the point is that this is a problem that shouldn't even have occurred. At what point did this seem like a good idea? Why would you decide to release a new version of a rare and desirable guitar BUT make a fundamental change conducive to NOTHING, that means you have a pain in the arse, and cost, to swap back..to exactly how it was in it's original form. It seems like a George Lucas style FUCK YOU form fender! i expect it's just marketing ineptitude based on the aforementioned corporate 'understanding' of what the offset community is like.

let me put it another way: How many people in the market for a Bass VI have you ever seen posting about putting a jazzmaster pickup in the bridge. The answer is about zero. How many people have you seen post they want a bass VI in original form? Hundreds, plus a current online petition. So for the possible handful of folks who might conceivably want that JM pup there their dreams are answered. For the probable thousands of people worldwide who just want a reproduction of the original? They are ALL inconvenienced by time effort and money. THAT is really unfathomably stupid business logic by Fender. It took me 30 seconds to do the equation on that, think through the impacts, and make a prediction on what the best most popular final product would be based on nothing but paying attention to 2 internet forums. That's free marketing research right there!


Again thinking in terms of business: the ONLY sensible reason for this choice is precisely if you (fender) also produce the standard pickguards and bridge pups. You then bank on generating an additional revenue stream from the people you know will want to swap out the guard, pup and switching back to original. A kind of variation on ‘designed obsolescence’ (as is so popular in the motor vehicle trade - I'm looking at you, Ford). Of course the obvious problem with this is that Fender don’t really have that kind of additional product knocking about and people are far more likely to go to one of the many independent guard and pup vendors.

I repeat: the whole thinking process at fender is akin to George Lucas. They/he don't get their own products and proportion of their fanbase, at least as far as shortscales and offsets go. They do seem to have the bloozlawyer tele/strat market nailed in all its conservative glory.

I'm totally curious about this new fenders!

I owned a Jaguar Baritone Special and i sold it - not for the humbuckers, but for the scale length. I would love the new 30" VI... I think, fender has a reason for the hb.
But: I never played the new VI, so i can't say anything about it...

I love my japanese supersonic and i love my mexican cyclone. So i don't know, what will go wrong with a mexican supersonic. Fuck for fender or squier on the headstock. For the nerds there will be soon a squier-decal-aftermarket for swapping the »fender super sonic« decal...

jagsonic wrote:I'm totally curious about this new fenders!

I owned a Jaguar Baritone Special and i sold it - not for the humbuckers, but for the scale length. I would love the new 30" VI... I think, fender has a reason for the hb.
But: I never played the new VI, so i can't say anything about it...

I love my japanese supersonic and i love my mexican cyclone. So i don't know, what will go wrong with a mexican supersonic. Fuck for fender or squier on the headstock. For the nerds there will be soon a squier-decal-aftermarket for swapping the »fender super sonic« decal...

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