hotrodperlmutter wrote:when i started using the 'crunch' i noticed my levels were fucked going between the clean and crunch. i've only recently gotten that fingered out, and my problem seems to be lack of true bonding with my amp. the thing is versatile as shit, and i have the attention span of a goldfish. * HUH? WASSAT? *
....i know now that i just need to spend several days fucking with the amp. i'm gonna have a go with no pedals, and see what i can scrounge up.
Definitely spend more time messing with your amp. You ought not to be afraid of the EQ, it's a tool that helps you fit your sound into different scenarios, it's NOT some mystical set of knobs that is untouchable and will result on terrible things happening if something is changed or nudged a bit.
Also, being able to use your ears and the EQ is invaluable when you are playing with others. Being able to listen to the sounds that the other guitarist, the bassist, the keyboard player and the drummer are making, then realising where your space is and dialling it in is something you have to be able to do if you're going to play with bands. Being able to do this will help you get a good sound that fits and cuts through, as opposed to just cranking a bad sound that doesn't really fit in the first place. It's something that I'm pretty bad at, to be honest, but it's very, very useful. BacchusJim was always very good at this, and I suspect it's one of the reasons he was always in demand as a bassist, he could show up to anybody's gig and fit in well straight away without imposing his own tone on everyone else.
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:33 am
by Dave
Black Cat Bone wrote:Oh bloody hell. Drunk douchery ahoy. Lal 'real like punk rock' what a knob I am Sorry Freddy! I still reserve the right not to reveal my lack of ballskill glad to see things got back in track.
Freddy - Just PMed you.
Yeah that would be GeorgeF not Freddy. Farking drunk eedjiot *sigh*.
So HR have you been experimenting? Any progress? Just take a shit load of speed and headbutt things.
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:43 pm
by George
No worries dude.
As for my limited insight into this punk sound conundrum I'm with whoever said it's mostly attitude (Mage I think?). Take a band like Dead Kennedys where East Bay Ray who uses all sorts of scratchy trebly surf tones and a band like US Bombs where the guitars always have crunchy, even and overly-produced rock tones. Difficult. Having said that I now sound like a typical guy from TDPRI saying "tone is subjective, there's no right or wrong answer" like a dick. I would say the main constant in my favourite punk records is treble and gain but not too much saturation.
JUST REMEMBER TO BRING THE 'TUDE MAN, THE FUCKING 'TUDE!!
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:05 pm
by Fran
East Bay Ray is a bit out there on his own as far as Punk guitarists go, his style would'nt be out of place in a Surf, Psychobilly or Bar Rock band to be truthful. Brilliant guitarist.
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:11 pm
by James
He's easily one of my favourites. He's probably my only guitar hero other than Agata.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:00 am
by hotrodperlmutter
well, it's settled then. spent about an hour fucking about, and turns out i didn't need to fuck with my crunch channel at all. i just switched it over to the ULTRA! channel, and fucking shredded crazzy punkage. couldn't really get as ballsy as i was wanting with the LP, so i hooked up the dot studio (featuring dirty fangers in teh bridge) and holy shit... FUKCING PUNK RAWK!!!!1
only thing is the guitar does not look punk rock. i guess i'm going to restring the jagmaster and see what i can nail out.
thanks again dudes. for the pep talk and general guidance. this place gives me the boners in a gay way. like, i want to bang all of you. right now. BUT FIRST I MUST RAWK
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:23 am
by the isaac eaton
EVERYBODY SHUT UP EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A HUNDRED PRECENT WRONG
THIS IS HOW YOU SOUND UP THE PUNX
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:29 am
by hotrodperlmutter
did he say "i hear these line6 devices are hard to find?"
wtf? whole video is an uncomfortable joke. so they use the exact same setup, just no name guy has delay? ooooooooooh.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:34 am
by the isaac eaton
He has a rare DL4, so hard to fine. mysterious line 6 delay unit!! extremely boring rigs are extremely boring.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:36 am
by hotrodperlmutter
no shit. arena rock bands, lul. faux-punk.
someone please lock this gay thread.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:43 am
by gaybear
butt hurt
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:44 am
by less_cunning
in before this thread gets locked or moved to the pub.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:48 am
by gaybear
the thread is fine. lotsa info.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:56 am
by hotrodperlmutter
well, christ on the cross. it's the elusive punk rock legend gaybear.
yeah, i'm totally butt hurt right meow.
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:01 am
by gaybear
hotrodperlmutter wrote:well, christ on the cross. it's the elusive punk rock legend gaybear.
yeah, i'm totally butt hurt right meow.
nah, you're totally playing it cool!
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:08 pm
by hugh
pawn shop guitar --> PA system
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:46 pm
by robroe
every fucking punk band in buffalo plays black SG's and JCM800's
i don't even think people use effects anymore around here. just shitty fucking looking sg's and marshals. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzZZZZZZZZ
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:29 pm
by Dave
They all got teh Ian Mackayes?
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:54 am
by LimpDickCheney
If you ask the baddest mofo in shoe leather (James Williamson of Iggy and the Stooges), Gibson Les Paul and Vox AC15.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:59 pm
by lorez
sorry to drag it up butI was just starting to watch this that I sky+'d the other day, first part of the Don Letts film Punk: Attitude
glad to see things got back in track.
