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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:56 pm
by sholkham
ultratwin wrote:(imagine if Falco had produced the Clash before he passed)
Is it wrong that that description sounds awesome to me?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:16 pm
by Mages
ultratwin wrote:
George wrote:This particular model doesn't do it for me, I think because Jazzys are too big for me.
Please elaborate, George! :wink: I only say that because there are a number of diminutive front girls in Korean bands that have no issue with a Jazzo, and would think that the shape (more than the size itself) can be comfy to fit most players, albeit the overall length being quite long in the Fender family.


This horrible-sounding Korean indie band I saw on TV for example (imagine if Falco had produced the Clash before he passed) has a 5'3" lead singer who does quite fine with a vintage Jazzmaster. And what a looker! (Jazzmaster, not the singer)
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you have to hang it down low like that though, if you like your guitars more at belly level or higher for better neck access, the jazzmasters I have played are really bulky and uncomfortable.

I'd still try this guitar out though. it looks pretty cool.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:28 pm
by George
Mages wrote:
ultratwin wrote:
George wrote:This particular model doesn't do it for me, I think because Jazzys are too big for me.
Please elaborate, George! :wink: I only say that because there are a number of diminutive front girls in Korean bands that have no issue with a Jazzo, and would think that the shape (more than the size itself) can be comfy to fit most players, albeit the overall length being quite long in the Fender family.


This horrible-sounding Korean indie band I saw on TV for example (imagine if Falco had produced the Clash before he passed) has a 5'3" lead singer who does quite fine with a vintage Jazzmaster. And what a looker! (Jazzmaster, not the singer)
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you have to hang it down low like that though, if you like your guitars more at belly level or higher for better neck access, the jazzmasters I have played are really bulky and uncomfortable.

I'd still try this guitar out though. it looks pretty cool.
Yeah I wear my guitars high because I like to jump about the neck. I know there's a certain malnourished and boyish charm about a small person wielding a big guitar, but I just don't like the feel of slugging it around; it roots me down too much. I'm a firm believer that guitars match certain people and looks but I don't really "feel" this one. Big guitars on small people:

Women = sexy
Men = emasculating

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:50 pm
by ekwatts
My Batwing is the biggest guitar I've ever played. It's long and bulky. And it looks great on me. I'm not very big, but friends have become so accustomed to seeing it on me that when I was with some guys in Sound Control a few years back and I picked up a Les Paul they thought it looked like a half-size guitar. But that's a Les Paul. It's sort of supposed to look like that. And they're hardly light in spite of their fairly slight profile. Unless you're an actual midget or people are accustomed to seeing much smaller/larger instruments around your neck I doubt anybody is going to look at you and be all "LOLDWARF!"

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:52 pm
by George
I don't do it for other people; they can rot for all I care.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:07 pm
by paul_
Kudos to Squier... I'd rather that than the Fender version anytime.

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:14 pm
by Nick
I'm gonna sound like a total NOOB here but since I've never owned a Jazzy and only had one tele that didn't really count because it was a Squier Standard with ceramic pickups that I later swapped out for a lace in the bridge....

What are the differences between Jazzmaster and Tele...in terms of tone, resonance, overall sound. Are they similar in any ways? I've been a bit jealous of my friends' teles, primarily for the glossy neck pickup sound and utilitarian versatility, but on the other hand there's a lot of music I like that was made with Jazzmasters, I've always thought they were beautiful guitars but were never "pure jazzmaster" enough at a reasonable price for me.. This Mascis Jazzy seems like the one if I was to ever get a Jazzmaster.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:42 am
by TheBurbz
George wrote:Yeah I wear my guitars high because I like to jump about the neck. I know there's a certain malnourished and boyish charm about a small person wielding a big guitar, but I just don't like the feel of slugging it around; it roots me down too much. I'm a firm believer that guitars match certain people and looks but I don't really "feel" this one. Big guitars on small people:

Women = sexy
Men = emasculating
I agree. Thom Yorke is probably the only small guy that can pull the look off IMO...and maybe Prince.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:48 am
by Fran
Nick wrote:
What are the differences between Jazzmaster and Tele...in terms of tone, resonance, overall sound.
I'd say the Jazzmaster has less bite and sustain/resonance. More mellow and rounded if that makes sense?
That tremolo system and bridge is the main factor and imo a TOM makes very little difference. Tele strings resonate through the body were as with Jazzys/Jags you get a subtle harmonic jangle from behind the bridge.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:16 am
by Doog
The tremolo setup has some effect definitely, but after having an angled Strat pickup in mine, I can certainly vouch for the pickup and placement having a more major impact on the sound.

Here's an AWFUL comparison I did, 3 months between the two videos, but you get the idea:

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:40 am
by Doog
Fran wrote:Just been browsing around a bit more, TDPRI are'nt impressed with teh Basswoods, LAL.

Anyway, not completely related but this is cool...

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Hahaha, I was thinking about this inteview the other day, I love his goofy smile at the beginning. When indie rock legends and great-aunts collide!

"J Mascis gee-tah."

The guitar looks preeeeeeetty nifty- they'll no doubt get it in at the Bognor shop (I still pinch myself over Bognor having A DECENT GUITAR SHOP), I'll have to give 'er a test ride.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:38 pm
by Nick
See as much as I've heard the tele sound is due to the bridge, I've also head the tele sound isn't much affected by a bigsby.

Guess I'm just gonna have to play both when this comes out

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:57 pm
by Johno
I rang Dolphin Music who then put me through to another one of their companies who tell me they ordered these on the 2nd & they are due in next week RRP £329

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:59 pm
by George
Johno wrote:I rang Dolphin Music who then put me through to another one of their companies who tell me they ordered these on the 2nd & they are due in next week RRP £329
The CVs were listed about that when they were first released so I would expect a climb down to £275 pretty soon.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:01 pm
by Doog
Nick wrote:See as much as I've heard the tele sound is due to the bridge, I've also head the tele sound isn't much affected by a bigsby.
All of these things have an affect, but it's the sum of the parts that define the sound, not the components- stick a Strat pickup in a Tele and it'll still sound like a Tele.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:13 pm
by Mike
George wrote:
Johno wrote:I rang Dolphin Music who then put me through to another one of their companies who tell me they ordered these on the 2nd & they are due in next week RRP £329
The CVs were listed about that when they were first released so I would expect a climb down to £275 pretty soon.
It will be mad hard to resist at that price.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:26 pm
by Nick
Doog wrote:
Nick wrote:See as much as I've heard the tele sound is due to the bridge, I've also head the tele sound isn't much affected by a bigsby.
All of these things have an affect, but it's the sum of the parts that define the sound, not the components- stick a Strat pickup in a Tele and it'll still sound like a Tele.
Right...this is why I've given up on modding guitars and only buy guitars I like the sound and feel of out of the box.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:21 pm
by endsjustifymeans
Everyone who bought a blacktop JM is probably kicking themselves right now.

Myself included, though mines been sold off at this juncture.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:22 pm
by MikeG
Nick wrote:
Doog wrote:
Nick wrote:See as much as I've heard the tele sound is due to the bridge, I've also head the tele sound isn't much affected by a bigsby.
All of these things have an affect, but it's the sum of the parts that define the sound, not the components- stick a Strat pickup in a Tele and it'll still sound like a Tele.
Right...this is why I've given up on modding guitars and only buy guitars I like the sound and feel of out of the box.

Obviously, the angle of the bridge pickup is a massive factor. There's a lot of cork sniffing about saddles on the bridge etc. I swapped the bridge on my American Tele for aesthetics to more traditional looking one. I didn't A/B the two, and maybe I could have, but the difference is pretty subtle to be honest. Sometimes wish I'd bought a piezo bridge instead - a far more worthwhile mod!


On the subject of this Jazzmaster... very hard to resist at the rumoured price!

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:40 pm
by Pacafeliz
but seriously... does anyone EVER really use the tremlock? :lol:

i find it kinda suspicious that there's only info about these on stores in europe?
maybe they're europe-exclusive? :?

sure hope not.