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What are your Tiny Terror switches like?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:12 am
by Thom
Reading on the Orange forum, seems that they have subtly changed the switching on the Tiny Terrors, and was just curious to see what version you guys had.
Seems that the new version which will be standard going forward has the standby on the 7/15W switch not the power switch.

The "Original"
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The now standard one.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:19 am
by Hurb
queer!

Mine is the old style but the switches are not exactly like the ones in the first pic..there more like teh new ones.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:21 am
by Hurb
Also i know this is totally noob question and i should know it as i have had a tube amp a long time.

BUT

when switching on you leave it standby for a bit before turning on yes?

but when switching off do you just go straight to off or does it not matter?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:32 am
by Mike
You should go through a standby phase both times really - unless you're going to work on the amp and then you should go straight to off to discharge the caps.

I do:

Power off -> Standby
Leave two minutes
Standby -> Play
Rock
Play -> Standby
Wait a minute, pack up cables etc.
Standby -> Off

Mine is Old school switches and placement. I read this on HC aswell - this is the word from Orange: "All new Tiny Terrors will be set up this way from now on. This was a design change that improves the design as well as implement a switch that was more readily available."

I dunno what they mean by improve the design - whatever - I guess it's just cheaper.

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:33 am
by euan
Hurb wrote:Also i know this is totally noob question and i should know it as i have had a tube amp a long time.

BUT

when switching on you leave it standby for a bit before turning on yes?

but when switching off do you just go straight to off or does it not matter?
Standbay for 2-5 minutes then rawk out. When powering off I just go to straight to off. Should be fine.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:37 am
by Hurb
cheers guys!

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:45 am
by Doog
So the 7/15w switch is now a 3 way, with standby in the middle position?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:49 am
by Mike
Apparently so.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:52 am
by euan
Mike wrote:Apparently so.
The more dangerous configuration I would think as you could easily forgot to drop it back into standby in a hurry. But ah well, I'm sure Orange will be taken customers feedback into consideration.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:54 am
by Mike
Yeah people could wear out their tubes by thumping it on and off in 15 or 7W mode.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:38 pm
by Thom
Yeah I thought it was a weird change - certainly increases the probablility of someone just putting it straight on.

Is there any reason why it would be bad to switch from 7 to 15W whilst on? Or do you go back to standby to do that?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:42 pm
by Mike
It switches between power voltages to the Power tubes and other parts of the amp.
Clever guy wrote: ...selecting a different HV tap on the PT secondary. One leg remains tied to one side of the bridge rectifier, the other side has two taps and the switch selects between them. The result is something like 250VDC rather than about 325VDC.
I go into standby to switch it, but it shouldn't be a problem to hot switch it.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:32 pm
by Doog
Duh me, I didn't realise the original power switch had a standby setting as well, I thought it was like those Epiphone amps- just off and "wait a minute, k?" on.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:36 pm
by Mike
Nah the cuffufle is just about them moving the middle standby state from the power switch to the wattage switch.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:05 pm
by euan
Hurb wrote:Also i know this is totally noob question and i should know it as i have had a tube amp a long time.

BUT

when switching on you leave it standby for a bit before turning on yes?

but when switching off do you just go straight to off or does it not matter?
i'm an eijit by the way. Go into standby before powering off for the sake of your speaker, that can get damaged when powering off.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:08 pm
by jcyphe
The Tiny Terror looks like a Lunchpail.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:20 pm
by Gavin
I think it looks cool in a weird sort of way, like a battery charger or an arc welder or something like you'd find in a '70s garage.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:36 pm
by Mike
jcyphe wrote:The Tiny Terror looks like a Lunchpail.
But it sounds wonderful.
Who gives a fuck about aesthetics. You like Danelectro guitars ffs!

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:20 pm
by dots
Doog wrote:Duh me, I didn't realise the original power switch had a standby setting as well, I thought it was like those Epiphone amps- just off and "wait a minute, k?" on.
the pro jr is like that, too.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:43 pm
by arcadedave
dots wrote:
Doog wrote:Duh me, I didn't realise the original power switch had a standby setting as well, I thought it was like those Epiphone amps- just off and "wait a minute, k?" on.
the pro jr is like that, too.
Except the Pro Junior, is awesome, and is as such excused.