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New Matamp amplifier - REAL competition for the Orange TT

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:56 am
by Mike
Check this out, looks very very cool:

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It's actually going to be £259 delivered if you order direct from Matamp.

This is one dudes account of it after playing it at the London Guitar show:

t's 6V6-based.

Basically the voice switch voices (from right to left:

thin clean, mid clean, fat clean, fat drive, mid drive, thin drive.

The drive settings activate the drive knob. I think this extra drive stage is all or part in the 6v6 power stage - hence not possible to fit an fx loop. The other controls are pretty obvious. The AMAZING thing was how under-control the circuit sounds - I set it to a lovely fattish clean sound (think Peter Green noodling) then I flicked it across to the fat drive voice, with drive at 3/4 - I expected some loss of control at ether the top or bottom (or both) but instead it just sang! Very cool indeed. This was through a 1x12 with Hot100 in it - seemed to suit it very well. Overall volume levels were impossible to judge against the cacophony of the show. But I don't care. I'm having one. I offered cash but that's the only one in existence right now - production kicks off in a couple of weeks I think they said.

Great sound. £299. Made in England. Enough said



The DI out well may excite Little Miss Heavium.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:56 am
by Doog
Not sure I like the idea of 3 different dirty and clean "presets".. I guess the volume control must work in conjunction with it, or why would it need a master?

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:03 pm
by Mike
Master is just to dial it down when you're recording I think.

The Volume is active in all the voicings, the Drive is a Gain for when you're in the Dirty modes.

Apparently they're just like voicings of the amplifier rather than presets, and these things are supposed to be for recording, so you just dial all you want before recording I guess. Mind you I know what you mean in that a "Flat" clean and dirty mode would be good. I think it has a LOT of features for the money though.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:13 pm
by kim
i'm not such a DI freak, really ! :wink:

sounds interesting though, they have another low wattage amp called the MiniMat, no ?

but i still think the TT looks cuter 8)

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:24 pm
by euan
I agree the TT looks like a cooler amp. But this looks like it could be the cure for my never actually going to gig condition.

Matamp have it for order now at £299.

Anyone want to buy a VC30?

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:37 pm
by Lanark
Mike wrote: ...Apparently they're just like voicings of the amplifier rather than presets, and these things are supposed to be for recording, so you just dial all you want before recording I guess...
So more or less like a Notch Filter kind of deal, then.

Seems cool enough though but not necessarily something I'd need these days.
But it'd be freakin' brilliant for apartment dwelling and recording though. Where was it a twenty years ago when it would have made my life a different and happy place?

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:01 pm
by luke
If it was 15w I'd probably jump on it, but 4w doesn't really sound like a lot, especially as a lot of people have said the Tiny Terror is only just loud enough for small gigs. 4w is clearly going to be purely for bedroom use, and that added versatility the TT packs is what I think will ensure that this won't quite win the competition. If any company can make a 15w valve amp for under £300 though, then that really, really would be strong competition.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:12 pm
by Doog
Malik wrote:If it was 15w I'd probably jump on it, but 4w doesn't really sound like a lot, especially as a lot of people have said the Tiny Terror is only just loud enough for small gigs. 4w is clearly going to be purely for bedroom use, and that added versatility the TT packs is what I think will ensure that this won't quite win the competition. If any company can make a 15w valve amp for under £300 though, then that really, really would be strong competition.
There's really less difference in volume between 15w and 4w than you'd imagine.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:14 pm
by euan
Headroom headroom headroom headroom.

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:15 pm
by Doog
Clean headroom.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:53 pm
by luke
Doog wrote:Clean headroom.
Yeah, and everyone I've spoken to has said "Yeah, at small gig volumes you can beat the drummer with clean, but only just. 4w doesn't sound like it can get up there, and that may be undesirable for some folk. The TT can hang with the big boys but still pass a practise amp, and that's the key to its success, I'd say.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:56 pm
by Doog
Malik wrote:Yeah, and everyone I've spoken to has said "Yeah, at small gig volumes you can beat the drummer with clean, but only just. 4w doesn't sound like it can get up there, and that may be undesirable for some folk.
Depends if you want to play clean though. I wouldn't be surprised if a 4w tube amp flat out could keep up with a band. Both are not amps designed for sparkly cleans in a live situation.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:50 pm
by Thom
I'd be interested to hear what someone who has played the TT has to say about it and how it compares.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:18 pm
by jcyphe
I didn't think it was possible but that Little Rock is even uglier than the Tiny Terror. These guys don't know what the fuck they're doing on the cheap end lookswise.

On the High End they got the right idea, keep it old school.

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:04 am
by Mike
Yeah, because looks matter when it comes to an Amplifier.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:38 am
by jcyphe
Mike wrote:Yeah, because looks matter when it comes to an Amplifier.
Aren't you the same guy talking about how ugly Peavey's gear is? And yes when you're paying your hard earned money for something, whether it be a car, guitar, amp, or shirt or whatever, somewhere behind the functionality how it looks is important. And you know it does because for any other item you're banging on about how it looks, so stop being salty cause I think the Tiny Terror is stupid looking and this new Matamp is even uglier.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:40 am
by Mike
I don't think Peavey stuff is ugly. Eh?

I'm not salty, I couldn't care less what you think of the aesthetics of a piece of gear I own and a piece I don't and just found on the net. You overstate your importance.

I don't care what something looks like, it could be ugly as sin but if it sounds good that's what matters to me - I'm a musician, not an aesthete.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:48 am
by jcyphe
Mike wrote:I don't think Peavey stuff is ugly. Eh?

I'm not salty, I couldn't care less what you think of the aesthetics of a piece of gear I own and a piece I don't and just found on the net. You overstate your importance.

I don't care what something looks like, it could be ugly as sin but if it sounds good that's what matters to me - I'm a musician, not an aesthete.
your a fucking liar, and I'll quote you word for word from previous threads. You're acting like a bitch about this so I had to do it. And this is just about Peavey's.

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 44&start=0
Mike wrote:It's Peavey. Just seems so many counterintuitive features and at that price? I think not.

Cosmetically it looks nice thuogh.
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 36&start=0
Mike wrote:
Gavin wrote:It's quite fancy compared to the other small tube amps though, it's got a effects loop and XLR outs and stuff.
And a big Peavey logo
Look who's talking about the looks of Amps, MIKE IS. Oh look who is a fucking Hypocrite, MIKE IS.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:57 am
by Mike
jcyphe wrote:
Mike wrote:I don't think Peavey stuff is ugly. Eh?

I'm not salty, I couldn't care less what you think of the aesthetics of a piece of gear I own and a piece I don't and just found on the net. You overstate your importance.

I don't care what something looks like, it could be ugly as sin but if it sounds good that's what matters to me - I'm a musician, not an aesthete.
your a fucking liar, and I'll quote you word for word from previous threads. You're acting like a bitch about this so I had to do it. And this is just about Peavey's.

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 44&start=0
Mike wrote:It's Peavey. Just seems so many counterintuitive features and at that price? I think not.

Cosmetically it looks nice thuogh.
Erm. A liar? I think not - here I am talking about my experience of Peavey as a quality brand. Nothing to do with aesthetics or looks. it's the design decisions they made with regard to the second mode control being on the back rather than the front. I actually say here that the amp looks pretty. I don't know what your point is.
more drivel wrote:
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtop ... 36&start=0
Mike wrote:
Gavin wrote:It's quite fancy compared to the other small tube amps though, it's got a effects loop and XLR outs and stuff.
And a big Peavey logo
Look who's talking about the looks of Amps, MIKE IS. Oh look who is a fucking Hypocrite, MIKE IS.
Again I'm talking about the specs and sound of the thing. I really don't like the way Peavey amps sound save for the clean sounds on the Classic serious. The JSX is overly compressed and sterile while the XXX and 5150 stuff just sounds like a swarm of bees to me.

Also calm down.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:23 am
by jcyphe
I'm just saying Mike, to each his own. You should learn to let people have their opinions. I can scroll some more and I'm sure I'll find more threads with you discussing the looks of gear and amps both as a plus and as a deterrent.

Also the whole "I'm a Musician" save that. Everybody is here cause they like guitars and playing them. I seen this from you and Doog lately, dissing people about their Guitars or for buying amps. Nobody here is eating of a Platinum Plate from their music, so you can save the condescending tude.