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another day, another Fender shortscale...
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:34 pm
by aphasiac
lands on my doorstep.
can you tell what it is yet?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:37 pm
by luke
My personal favourite of the Cyclone Series. I forget the number.
How's it play?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:37 pm
by Aug
a dicked with musicmaster?
Re: another day, another Fender shortscale...
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:59 pm
by Mike
aphasiac wrote:lands on my doorstep.
can you tell what it is yet?
Jesus, who loses the bridge screw from a D saddle?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:01 pm
by aphasiac
Malik wrote:My personal favourite of the Cyclone Series. I forget the number.
How's it play?
ok, first of all the guitar is in a bit of a state. Dirty, saddle screw missing, neck pickup not working, both control knobs missing, pickups 1cm from strings and can't raise them (foam underneath must have gone).
But despite all that, sounds really nice, if a little low output. Certainly better than my Jag-stang and stock CIJ jaguar.
Neck is pretty chunky though, and will take some getting used to. It feels like the neck on my old Squier Jagmaster II, cept thicker.
but yeh, it was a decent deal for £250 (these things usually go for £450-£500 in the UK).
Aug wrote:a dicked with musicmaster?
Re: another day, another Fender shortscale...
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:11 pm
by aphasiac
Mike wrote:
Jesus, who loses the bridge screw from a D saddle?
ive just had a quick listen, and guess what - the intonation on the D is almost spot on.
so it's possible the screw removal was intentional.
Man this guitar is filthy though - previous owner was a smoker. man even the strings are gross, i hate that sh#t. it came with a deluxe gig bag as well - IF YOU'RE GOING TO SMOKE, PUT YOUR GUITAR AWAY WHEN YOU'RE NOT PLAYING!!
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:23 pm
by filtercap
Nice lil project. How do I get a doorstep like yours that stuff lands on?
It looks like the prev owner ran that saddle out so far it went off the end of the screw.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:36 pm
by DGNR8
I guess it wouldn't make sense to put the screw onto the inside of the bridge. That's a neat looking unit with the three jag pups. New to me.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:43 pm
by aphasiac
Full piccie:
Just realised - Is the Cyclone even a proper shortscale? Its 24.75 - does that mean we can post les pauls on this forum?
oh yeh, anoither annoyance - the pickup switches are get in the way of my strumming - i hit them approximately once every 5 seconds. grrr.
filtercap wrote:Nice lil project. How do I get a doorstep like yours that stuff lands on?
dude, i have more money than sense. Also in the past month ive just sold 3 amps and a bass. That said, i still have too many guitars, so im probably going to sell off my Jag-Stang. probably the right time to do it, saw one go for £450 the other day on ebay
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:05 pm
by filtercap
aphasiac wrote:
Just realised - Is the Cyclone even a proper shortscale? Its 24.75 - does that mean we can post les pauls on this forum?
oh yeh, anoither annoyance - the pickup switches are get in the way of my strumming - i hit them approximately once every 5 seconds. grrr.
filtercap wrote:Nice lil project. How do I get a doorstep like yours that stuff lands on?
dude, i have more money than sense. Also in the past month ive just sold 3 amps and a bass. That said, i still have too many guitars, so im probably going to sell off my Jag-Stang. probably the right time to do it, saw one go for £450 the other day on ebay
Whoever writes the forum descriptions considers the Cyclone a shortscale. My parents brought me up never to question the Forumdescriptionthingywriter. I suppose 24-3/4 is short for Fender.... but now I wonder, does that make those new Squier Teles shortscale? Or are they all technically Paulscale?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:52 pm
by Tweez
aphasiac wrote:
Seriously mate, tidy that shit.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:36 am
by aphasiac
ok, i just took the strings off and opened it up.
Trem cavity was filthy, so cleaned it out and tightened the 3 trem springs (i like my strat trems to sit flush with the body - it was floating).
Took off pickguard, and cleaned it up. Interesting thing - there are two types of AVI jag pickup, "bridge" (higher output, yellow cables) and "neck" (lower output, reverse wound, white cable). Anyway, this guitar has the "neck" version at the bridge and neck, and the "bridge" version in the middle.
This means combine any pickup with the middle and you get hum-cancelling. But also means neck + bridge wont hum cancel, and bridge is a bit weak. I might swap them and swap the pickup selector switches - looked like there was enough wire that i wouldnt need to resolder.
No obvious sign of a problem with the neck pickup. Will have to remove it, test it and test the switch. boo.
EDIT: oh yeh and the foam under the pickups is totally squished. I'll have to get some more from work to raise them up 1cm.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:44 am
by filtercap
Are those switches set up as one on/off switch per pickup? Or is each switch "off" in the middle with two phase options like Mustang switches? Or something else?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:13 am
by DGNR8
Good for you for cleaning it up. I love that shit. It's like fossil hunting. Strange about the pups. Maybe the person who had it didn't know what they were doing.
Clean rooms are overrated.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:21 am
by mezzio13
Ok, get some 1/8" surgical tube (those old folks medical supply places have it). You need less that a foot of it, so you might be able to just get some. Aquarium hose works too. Meausre how much the switch sticks out of the pg. Divide that distance in half and cut six pieces of hose to that length. Take the switch off, leave the screw in the hole, and put a piece of the hose on the screw (just like a pick up adjustment spring). Remount the switch. That will lower the switch out of way for your strumming but still leave access for you to use the switch.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:50 am
by Aug
mezzio13 wrote:Ok, get some 1/8" surgical tube (those old folks medical supply places have it). You need less that a foot of it, so you might be able to just get some. Aquarium hose works too. Meausre how much the switch sticks out of the pg. Divide that distance in half and cut six pieces of hose to that length. Take the switch off, leave the screw in the hole, and put a piece of the hose on the screw (just like a pick up adjustment spring). Remount the switch. That will lower the switch out of way for your strumming but still leave access for you to use the switch.
or you could alter your strumming style like everyone else.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:56 am
by inscho
Aug wrote:
or you could alter your strumming style like everyone else.
what a concept.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:22 am
by Nick
It isn't a shortscale.
But it's nicer.
Congrats
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:13 am
by iCEByTes
its amoust gibson scale my memmory dont fail
gibs 24,7x"
Prs 25" and 25,5"
Fender strato , Fender Performer , jazzie , tele , etc... 25,5"
Jaguar , Bronco , Hellworms , Swinger , Musicmaster , Duo , Mustangs and Mustang familly 22" and 24"
Baritone 28"
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:52 am
by aphasiac
filtercap wrote:Are those switches set up as one on/off switch per pickup? Or is each switch "off" in the middle with two phase options like Mustang switches? Or something else?
they're just one/off, like jaguar switches. no phase options.
Aug wrote:
or you could alter your strumming style like everyone else.
easier said than done. Look at the distance between the bridge and the left-most switch - there isn't a lot of room to strum, specially when im playing hard.
But then again, i used to hit the switches on my Jag-Stang all the time, but that stopped once i got used to it.
mezzio13 wrote:Ok, get some 1/8" surgical tube (those old folks medical supply places have it). You need less that a foot of it, so you might be able to just get some. Aquarium hose works too. Meausre how much the switch sticks out of the pg. Divide that distance in half and cut six pieces of hose to that length. Take the switch off, leave the screw in the hole, and put a piece of the hose on the screw (just like a pick up adjustment spring). Remount the switch. That will lower the switch out of way for your strumming but still leave access for you to use the switch.
cheers for tip, might give it a go. I work in a hospital so could get some tubing quite easily.