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Refinished vintage guitars
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:29 pm
by downer
dont know, if this is the right section, hope so..
so what is it with the refinishing? why do prices of guitars go so drasticaly down, when the lacquer is not original? Is it just for the "100% original" sticker?
or does it really so dramaticaly affect the sound of a guitar as i have read somewhere?
i had a refinished 65 mustang and the sound was great, but didnt hear it before refinish, so i cannot judge..
and i want to buy another vintage, so do you prefer original paint or refinished because its cheaper and the sound isnt that changed?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:32 pm
by Hurb
suck a fat cock!
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:36 pm
by More Cowbell
JUST KIDDING???
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:36 pm
by Hurb
More Cowbell wrote:JUST KIDDING???
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:44 pm
by Aug
must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.
You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:20 pm
by mezzio13
Speaking of which when you selling me yours?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:56 pm
by downer
so its bullshit, that the refinishing affects the sound?
i mean when you use the same type, for example nitro, it should be the same, shouldnt it?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:11 pm
by dodgedartdave
Aug wrote:must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.
You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.
apples and oranges.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:16 pm
by Doog
You'd definately get laughed out of the auction if you tried to sell upgraded fruit.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:40 pm
by Aug
downer wrote:so its bullshit, that the refinishing affects the sound?
i mean when you use the same type, for example nitro, it should be the same, shouldnt it?
personally, I don't think the finish affects the sound of the guitar at all...some would dispute that, but the difference would be so minute that not even Mozart himself would be able to tell the difference.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:42 pm
by Aug
dodgedartdave wrote:Aug wrote:must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.
You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.
apples and oranges.
that's the point I was kinda going for. Houses, cars, motorcycles, etc...can be "restored and/or modernized" and the value increases, but not with geetars. (And, yes, I'm fully aware that there are other things out there that would depreciate as well.)
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:49 pm
by NickD
Aug, agreed. I think its an 'antique' thing. Applys to furniture, pottery etc as well as guitars.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:17 pm
by mezzio13
Troy Trepanion took a run of the mill 67 Ford Mustang (Properly restored worth maybe $20k) stripped it, put a 500hp crate motor from FoMoCo in it, gutted the trunk compartment to fit the larger tires/lower quadra-link suspension, modern safety & paint..... $125k.
Troy Mezzio took a run of the mill '78 Fender Mustang (Properly restored worth maybe $800), put Lace Sensors in it, new mint PG, modern switched & pot.... $quat.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:54 pm
by DGNR8
Squat? I think you could still get a decent amount for it.
I know that if you replace a windshield in a car it can break a seal that affect the structure of the car somehow. Isn't that right? It is possible that the aged nitro could affect the tone, but it's really all about busting the cherry. Let's allow people their myths if it makes us money, but otherwise let's take advantage of the good deal and not worry about it. How do we know for certain that a vintage guitar didn't sit under someone's bed with the neck off? We don't. That could affect the overall integrity more than paint.
People made a big deal about losing the warmth going from vinyl to CD. I NEVER SIT AND LISTEN. To me the difference is completely moot. I hear music in a noisy car or house. I am too busy to ponder my navel like I did in HS. Does my guitar's tone really matter all that much? Does it really? Of course not.