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so I e-mailed curtis and said I really liked the sound of tele bridges but that I have a jazzmaster on the way, and he said he would try to combine the tele bridge design into a jazzmaster pickup, and less than a week later http://www.curtisnovak.com/pickups/jmt.shtml thats the result, very cool

Vewy inferesting....I'd love to hear that in someones setup.

Now if only TV Jones will finish that Filtertron-bridge-pickup-for-Telecaster he was writing me about last year.

ultratwin wrote:Vewy inferesting....I'd love to hear that in someones setup.

Now if only TV Jones will finish that Filtertron-bridge-pickup-for-Telecaster he was writing me about last year.

yeah i'm gonna buy one, I saw a video on their site of a tele with filtertrons, sounded mega sexy http://www.tvjones.com/

Rikki wrote:

ultratwin wrote:Vewy inferesting....I'd love to hear that in someones setup.

Now if only TV Jones will finish that Filtertron-bridge-pickup-for-Telecaster he was writing me about last year.

yeah i'm gonna buy one, I saw a video on their site of a tele with filtertrons, sounded mega sexy http://www.tvjones.com/

Wowz. Spankity twang dang! I was under the impression that Tom would try to shoehorn a filtertron-spec mini hum into an angled Tele bridge p'up, but who'd need to with tone like that? Woudln't be surprised if Brad Paisley and his custom Crook Tele start sweating fer that p'up arrangement sometime soon.

so I just made payment for a jazzmaster tele bridge, and a jm vintage neck, should be mega fun times when they get here

I love my credit card, yet loath it at the same time

Kool! Should sound nice. I ordered my Charlie Christian Novak pup last week, but still haven't got it, I will let you know when it arrives.

Rikki wrote:so I just made payment for a jazzmaster tele bridge, and a jm vintage neck, should be mega fun times when they get here

I love my credit card, yet loath it at the same time

You haven't even heard the stock pickups.

Mike wrote:

Rikki wrote:so I just made payment for a jazzmaster tele bridge, and a jm vintage neck, should be mega fun times when they get here

I love my credit card, yet loath it at the same time

You haven't even heard the stock pickups.

The stock pickups ain't nothing great anyways. He's not missing out.

Depends what you want to do with them. I owned a Jazzmaster, they're definitely not bad, and deserve at least a listen.

Personally I think modding something before you've even heard it is somewhat ridiculous. I think people pay too much attention to internet hyperbole and not enough time just using their ears.

Mike wrote:Depends what you want to do with them. I owned a Jazzmaster, they're definitely not bad, and deserve at least a listen.

Personally I think modding something before you've even heard it is somewhat ridiculous. I think people pay too much attention to internet hyperbole and not enough time just using their ears.

If he wants a specific sound and knows the pickups in there aren't gonna take him there, why waste time.

I played enough Jazzmasters the CIJ pickups are servicable and that's about it. The avri pickups are better and even then I don't think they're as good as some of the aftermarket pickups. And it sounds like he's having Novak make very specific aftermarket pickups.

I know you don't dig the Novak guy, but I think he's actually very short on Hype. He's one of the few pickup makers who shows exactly how he constructs a pickup. Where as others claim their pickup sounds like this or that, and the construction of the pickup doesn't mimic what it's trying to sound like. He's very open in that way, and when he makes a Jazzmaster "p-90" for example if you look at the way he constructs the pickup it is just like a P-90, so it's not just sales hype.

Is it worth replacing what's in there stock, that is subjective and yes using your ears is the final judgement.

My comment doesn't have anything to do with Novak, I was the same way about that downer retard who bought a Jag-Stang recently and was all about tearing it to shreds because of the horror stories he'd heard people (including myself) post on the internet. I just think it's crazy to spend extra money already on replacing pickups that don't necessary need it - just get the guitar and play it for a week and make an informed design based upon your playing, your setup, your taste and your ears.

I changed the pickups in my Jazzmaster as I wanted a higher output sound for chording, but sold the guitar shortly afterwards - it was the guitar that wasn't for me, not the pickups. The neck pickup was excellent and really didn't need touching, I just saw one for sale on here (Shad or Hurb was getting rid) for a good price and knew the pickguard would be coming off for the bridge and so jumped on it. It didn't really make enough of a difference to justify doing the neck.

It's the same shit with the Keeley brigade. Got a Tubescreamer? Get it Modded. Got an OD-3? Get it Modded. Do me a favour.

This Novak chap does at least post pictures of his stuff and it seems he's less shady than some of the other characters in this business. I just think it's close-minded to change puppies on a guitar you haven't got or played. It's like adding salt and pepper to food before tasting it. That's not an enlightened thing to do.

You alluded to something though in your post that goes to what Rikki was saying, the bridge pickup of the Jazzmaster whether it be vintage, avri, or cij is not its strong suit. If Rikki knows he wants a bridge sound more like a Telecaster why not change the pickup to attempt something like that. I don't see the big deal. People buy products all the time with add-on features before they get said product whether it be Cars or whatever.

I understand what you're saying though. I made a rant on wide range pickups the other day, because I find the vintage ones totally lacking and yet everyone seem to be in tizzy about accurate wide range humbuckers. Many who I don't think have even played the originals. That seems sillier to me. But in the end if a fool wants to be seperated from his own money, who cares?

How does he know the bridge pickup isn't strong enough for what he wants to do with it?

He doesn't. He's following internet hearsay and hyperbole. Which is what I have issue with. I have zero issue with anyone coming to the same conclusion I did about the pickup, I just think it's pathetic when he hasn't come to that conclusion himself using his own mind.

It does seem to be a little strange to me at least, that trying to make a jazzmater sound like a tele is sort of defeating the purpose of buying the much more expensive jazzy in the first place. I guess the most important thing though is having a guitar you're happy with.

I borrowed a friends jazzmaster this week and that led me to this desicion, I found the bridge pickup to be pretty meh, the neck one was alright but not great in any way, yes I havn't played THIS guitar, but I'm guessing theres not gonna be any real difference in it, I know what I want outta the guitar, and I know the standard pickups won't give me it. Granted it was done on a bit of a whim since I havn't heard the new pickup, but he gave a me a really good deal so I'm not complaining.

I agree people shouldn't make descisions based entirely on other peoples opinions, but I feel in this situation I'm not ill informed and although it took months for me to get the perfect tone out of my tele, I knew it was there from the start, and new it wasn't with the stock jazzmaster pickups.

JJLipton wrote:It does seem to be a little strange to me at least, that trying to make a jazzmater sound like a tele is sort of defeating the purpose of buying the much more expensive jazzy in the first place. I guess the most important thing though is having a guitar you're happy with.

I really like the trem on the jazzy, and if i'm being completely honest, theres the aesthetics, I will enjoy owning a guitar that very few people at this end of the world have.

Jazzmaster = way sexier that tele(IMO)

Rikki wrote:I'm not ill informed and although it took months for me to get the perfect tone out of my tele, I knew it was there from the start, and new it wasn't with the stock jazzmaster pickups.

So perfect you bought a Jazzmaster to stick a Tele pickup in?

Mike wrote:

Rikki wrote:I'm not ill informed and although it took months for me to get the perfect tone out of my tele, I knew it was there from the start, and new it wasn't with the stock jazzmaster pickups.

So perfect you bought a Jazzmaster to stick a Tele pickup in?

yes thats pretty much what I stated quite clearly, in fact this whole thread is about that particular pickup

or was that not a genuine question and just internet sarcasm, in which case well done, very clever

I literally have no idea what you're doing.

You're buying a Jazzmaster and trying to make it sound like a Telecaster which you already have which has your "perfect tone". Why are you buying a Jazzmaster?

Mike wrote:I literally have no idea what you're doing.

You're buying a Jazzmaster and trying to make it sound like a Telecaster which you already have which has your "perfect tone". Why are you buying a Jazzmaster?

cause I like the trem and I prefer the way the jazzmaster looks, and my tele plays like shit cause the neck sucks, it just sounds good, and I figured since I wanted a new guitar and I really like jazzmasters and I wanted a trem why not fucking get one

I literally have no idea why you care