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5W Tube combos - BUYING THE TREND
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:11 am
by Will
Got a few bucks to spare and I'm looking for a highly portable, simple amp.
So far my front runner is the Champ 600 - I tried it out once (albeit with a junky squier tele) and really liked the tone. Also, they're about the right size for me and look great.
There are other options, though:
Epi Valve Jr. - tried out (under not-ideal settings) and thought it was a bit tubby sounding. I also don't like the look.
Crate Palomino V8 - haven't tried, but in the price range
Peavey Valve King 8 - haven't tried, but I have Peavey loyalty. I've heard it's raspy w/ single coils, which is all I have.
Blackheart Little Giant - tried out, liked well enough. A little big, though (and emo-looking).
Fender Vibro Champ - haven't tried, but like reverb and such. Two-edged-sword is that it isn't the simplicity I'm looking for and it's a bit heavy.
The guitars are a Ric 325 copy (highest output of the bunch), a 335 w/ lipsticks and a tele bridge PUP, and my Eko 290.
I'm looking for a strong clean tone with little to no distortion (cranked the 600 and it stayed pretty clean) - even then, I'll probably put low-breakup groove tubes in. I DO NOT want Marshall crunch or blues tonez. I DO want a speaker jack, which I believe all these have. Trying to keep it under $250, but could sell my bassman for something great. This will mostly be for dormroom practice and a regular rehearsal w/ piano and drums.
Thoughts? Opinions? Anything else I should look into before I make a final decision?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:40 am
by dodgedartdave
buy a Blues Jr. It's 15 watts and WAY better then any of those amps. You can find em all day long used on craigslist for $250.00.
Just my opinion.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:58 am
by Will
dodgedartdave wrote:buy a Blues Jr. It's 15 watts and WAY better then any of those amps. You can find em all day long used on craigslist for $250.00.
Just my opinion.
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I like the Blues Jr., but it's WAAAYYYYY too loud for the dorm and too heavy to carry the 1/2 mile to practice - definitely looking for about 5 watts and under 20lbs.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:04 am
by dodgedartdave
DuoSonicBoy wrote:dodgedartdave wrote:buy a Blues Jr. It's 15 watts and WAY better then any of those amps. You can find em all day long used on craigslist for $250.00.
Just my opinion.
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I like the Blues Jr., but it's WAAAYYYYY too loud for the dorm and too heavy to carry the 1/2 mile to practice - definitely looking for about 5 watts and under 20lbs.
How bout's a Pro Jr.? Ever try those? Great amp and only 2 knobs.....
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:16 am
by Will
dodgedartdave wrote:DuoSonicBoy wrote:dodgedartdave wrote:buy a Blues Jr. It's 15 watts and WAY better then any of those amps. You can find em all day long used on craigslist for $250.00.
Just my opinion.
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I like the Blues Jr., but it's WAAAYYYYY too loud for the dorm and too heavy to carry the 1/2 mile to practice - definitely looking for about 5 watts and under 20lbs.
How bout's a Pro Jr.? Ever try those? Great amp and only 2 knobs.....
I like the looks of it, but it's still over the top for the dorm - we're looking for conversation-level volume, here! And 2x as heavy as the 600.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:30 am
by dodgedartdave
DuoSonicBoy wrote:dodgedartdave wrote:DuoSonicBoy wrote:
I like the Blues Jr., but it's WAAAYYYYY too loud for the dorm and too heavy to carry the 1/2 mile to practice - definitely looking for about 5 watts and under 20lbs.
How bout's a Pro Jr.? Ever try those? Great amp and only 2 knobs.....
I like the looks of it, but it's still over the top for the dorm - we're looking for conversation-level volume, here! And 2x as heavy as the 600.
When I lived in the Dorms, I played a Fender M-80. It's a crappy amp, but loud as Fuck. They all hated me, but at the same time, wanted to be me. I may be the wrong person to ask.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:55 am
by Doog
Dude, I can play my 50w watt 2x12 half stack at conversation volume, it's not like big amps won't go quiet- you just go master the "low register volume dial jiggle".
And a 15w amp isn't gonna be 3 times as loud as a 5w amp. Plus a 5w tube amp won't stay clean at band practise levels.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:28 pm
by superfuzz
Gretsch now "Make" a 5 watt jobber, though it is essintally a Fender Champ from looking at it. Those blues, and pro, juniors are apprently really good amps. I have yet to actually try one out though.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:10 pm
by NickS
dodgedartdave wrote:When I lived in the Dorms, I played a Fender M-80. It's a crappy amp, but loud as Fuck. They all hated me, but at the same time, wanted to be me. I may be the wrong person to ask.
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When I lived in Uni accomodation we had a guy a couple of flats down who started campaigning for some committee using a mic into his stereo that he stuck on a chair outside his window. We stuck a mike through my Marshall and shouted him down. LOLz
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:24 am
by iCEByTes
loved the Palomino look
its very classy
really cool for an little amp
got high score at consumers judge
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=487826
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:53 am
by drasp
Of the amps you listed, I'd take the Vibro Champ in a heartbeat.
I must be misunderstanding your comments though, as the Champs didn't have reverb, are very light, and were about as simple an amp as was ever made. Easy to repair & keep up, probably simpler than any other amp you listed. . .esp. if you got a straight Champ (no trem).
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:21 am
by Will
drasp wrote:Of the amps you listed, I'd take the Vibro Champ in a heartbeat.
I must be misunderstanding your comments though, as the Champs didn't have reverb, are very light, and were about as simple an amp as was ever made. Easy to repair & keep up, probably simpler than any other amp you listed. . .esp. if you got a straight Champ (no trem).
The new fender vibro champ is a tube 5W combo with variable preamp voicings and DSP effects ($249 too!!!!). I like the idea, but I really want something dirt simple, which is why I'm leaning towards the one knob Champion. The champ also has a 4ohm speaker out so I can use my 2x12 cabinet if needed.
My girl and I are going to guitar center on friday to check some things out with my own guitars - I'll also be looking at a Vox AD15 valvetronix, FWIW.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:48 am
by drasp
Ah, didn't realize you were talking about the XD. Yeah - does nothing for me. However, you may be able to find an original Champ for somewhere near your price range and THAT would be sweet.
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Actually, there is one for sale right now on the HCFX Spam thread. Nice SF Champ that would walk all over the 600.