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George L users, past and present:

How would you rate your experiences with George L stuff? Any problems? Are the leads susceptable to being torn out of the jacks? Worth the cash?

I think that they are great. As I change pedals around a fair amount, is good to be able to customise them as much as you want. Never had the cable come out of the jacks - don't think I ever will.
Only ever had one that didn't work - but that's because I didn't push it into the jack enough - sorted quickly enough.
Sound wise - I think I noticed a difference when I first got them, but was a while ago so can't really remember.
Definitely worth the cash if you ask me.

I sold all mine to Hurb and Nij but I loved them while I had them - like Lamp says, the only issues you have will be when you make them and if you don't get it right, then you will have no sound obviously, but making the cables is easy and fast (I recommend a sharp knife to slice the cable for a right angle edge rather that wire cutters which squish the cable, and I think they give you a noticeable return to sparkly high frequency response when you're using a lot of pedals, as I was when I got them.

I've never had a lead "torn out of the jack". The leads are connected at right angles and screwed in place with the back of the right angle jack screwing into the cable and THROUGH the insulaton to make the ground contact with the shield inside the cable, it makes them very sturdy.

Easy, Reliable, Skinny. I love George L's. I use a George L for my guitar cable and when I A/B'd it against a normal guitar cable, the George L seemed to have more top end sparkle. They are worth the dough. The music shops here sell the cable by the ft./meter so you can get as much as you would like, just have to buy the connectors.

I guess I'm slightly put off by the thinness of the cable but I suppose it's not really a problem for something that's not gonna be moving around really.

Doog wrote:I guess I'm slightly put off by the thinness of the cable but I suppose it's not really a problem for something that's not gonna be moving around really.

It's thin, but it's WAY strong.

If you look at a cross section of the cable you have the insulation, the shielding and then a thick black rubbery insulating layer between the shielding and the core. This black rubbery layer give the cable great strength and sturdiness. They don't bend around and flip flop easily.

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I've been using mine for about 3yrs, loads of gigs, practice every week, never had a problem. The other guitarist in the band uses George L's too and no problems.

I did a quick A/B between a regular noname brand and a George L at Cowbell's Lair during ECMU '06 and it was pretty cool. Definitely more clarity.

I use the big, crazy Lava coiled cable from the guitar -> Strobostomp and then use George L's in 6" sections between all my pedals and then into the amp. . .

2+ years using the George L's, no real problems. I used to have to screw the caps down tight on all my 90s every week or so (I use individual pedals, don't like to keep them on a board & only plug in to what I'm using) as they'd loose ground. Started using the little black strain relief jackets and haven't had to tighten one since (6+ months).

I use the coiled Lava cable from the guitar b/c I like the feel of a little "cable weight" on the ass-end of my guitar, not for any sonic reason.

Yeah Doog don't be put off by the thickness of a cable. I'm using some Klotz patch cable now and that stuff is quite thin but really good. I trust this stuff as well quite a bit because I use it for the cables in Subcity. Takes a good punishment.

I LOVE em... if ya do get them though.. get the brass tipped ends
because I think they are the cheapest and flat sounding ones...
they sometimes short, but the difference is that you snip a bit off
the end and re-screw in the tips and done.

i don't recommend them if you move your pedals around a bunch. if they are stationary they'll be fine. you'll notice a huge difference if you've been using cheapos your entire life.

but mine kept shorting out after i'd switch stuff around. then i'd have to go back and test each one individually to find the culprit.


i'm going with soldered cables now, more reliable, and less of a headache. i'm going through lavaman neutrik jacks with gepco cable, i think.

I had to dial a shit load of treble when I switched over to the Klotz patch cable. Now my Tele bridge pickup is reallllly trebly with pedals.