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Fender Twin Reverb - Speakers no longer Blown

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:07 am
by brambleperro
Hey!

So, I tried out a billion acoustics, and can't find any that I like more than my Nippon Gakki. Because of this, I decided to use my money to buy a silverface Fender Twin.

I managed to get a pretty good deal on one that just the tubes replaced/biased, but there is a catch: One of the speakers is blown. Right now one of the two original Fane speakers is hooked up, and it sounds fine, but I'd like to get another soon.

So here's my question to you: What speaker should I get to replace the blown one? Should I get two so that they are a matched pair?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:25 am
by RumorsOFsurF
I was going to buy a set of these Jensens for my silverface Twin, but I haven't got around to it...One of my speakers has a tear in the cone.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=009

They are the ones Fender uses in the reissue Twins.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:40 am
by filtercap
Check the back of your Twin to see if it's 80 Watts, 100 Watts, or 135 Watts. You'll need each speaker to be able to handle at least half that wattage.

There's no reason to have matched speakers, and many people mix 'em up. Do match the ohms ratings however, and it's a good idea to have a pair that are similar in efficiency too. (Look for the dB rating measured at 1 Watt and 1 meter.)

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:04 am
by drasp
I'm mixing two very different Weber speakers in my '63 Vibroverb RI.

1x 10A125 for " Bright, punchy, later/smooth breakup, aggressive, articulate, compressed/fattened at high volume"

&

1x 10F150 for "punch & tight low end"

Together they are fantastic. I spent a lot of time poking around, looking at what others were combining (edit - Ted Weber's forums are a great place for this!) & then spent a while on the phone with Ted Weber & one of his people going over the combinations they've seen tried & liked. Picking speakers is tough, 'eh? 'Cuz you can't really "audition" them unless you're looking to go through an awful lot of time & $$$. Even then, I don't trust my ear's memory to make comparisons over long periods of time.

Basicly, my point is that you ought to find a combo that others have tried/liked in your amp, or one that is similarly voiced, and go for it! :D

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:47 pm
by brambleperro
Mine is the 100 watt model, so I'm looking at getting a 50w speaker.

So that would mean an 12A150 and a 12F150 would fit my amp. The 12A150 seems to be somewhat outside my price range. I think for now I might try a 12F150, since my remaining Fane is plenty bright, but is missing that deep punch. Later on down the road I might get either a more bright speaker to replace it, since it sounds like it could be blown out as well (when I send it a lot of bass/warmness, it seems to have a buzz/rattle. I'll be sure to keep the 12A150 and Jensen C12N's in mind, since I've heard that they are very bright.

Thanks!

Any more suggestions are welcome.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:39 pm
by filtercap
Check out Eminence speakers also. I have a couple different 10" Eminence speakers that I've been very happy with, and their prices are pretty reasonable. As a loyal Indianan, I don't know what Drasp is going to think about speakers made in Kentucky, but there ya go. :)

Check all around inside your cabinet and everything in the immediate vicinity to see if the rattle might be just some loose item. Big Fender amps are very efficient down in the low frequencies, whether or not the speakers can handle it. If you have to, you can tighten up the lows by changing a couple tone capacitors to smaller values, such as changing the bass cap from .1 to .047 or .022 and maybe changing the mid cap from .047 to .022. I changed the bass on my Twin to .022 and left the mid alone. Some of the newer Fender tube amps are designed with .022's in both positions.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:27 pm
by Sloan
If your going to be moving your amp around a lot, check out the Jenson NEO series. They're so light!

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:44 pm
by brambleperro
filtercap wrote:Check all around inside your cabinet and everything in the immediate vicinity to see if the rattle might be just some loose item. Big Fender amps are very efficient down in the low frequencies, whether or not the speakers can handle it. If you have to, you can tighten up the lows by changing a couple tone capacitors to smaller values, such as changing the bass cap from .1 to .047 or .022 and maybe changing the mid cap from .047 to .022. I changed the bass on my Twin to .022 and left the mid alone. Some of the newer Fender tube amps are designed with .022's in both positions.
I listened to it from behind, and it seems like the sound is coming from the speaker itself. I'm heading out today to maybe buy a speaker, and when I put it in, I'll disconnect the other one, too. If the sound continues, I'll start looking at the capacitors.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:09 pm
by dots
junkbox and i just cleaned up and re-sold a '75 silverface twin and had to replace the speakers in it. for some god awful reason, the previous owner had it outfitted with a pair of peavey spiders. they were blown (BOTH of them), so we dropped in a couple fender special designs i pulled from a fender cab a couple years ago. they sound pretty good. if you're interested, ima start a thread in the classifieds to get rid of the other two.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:28 pm
by brambleperro
UPDATE!

I sorta combined all the advice here and bought 2 Weber Signature series ceramic 12B's.

So far it sounds great, and I'm sure it will get better as they break in. They are real bright, just like the Jensen C12N's, but I can control that with a little EQ. I was drawn to these because of their reputable low-end, and I haven't been disappointed. Thanks a lot for the help - I'd never even heard of Weber speakers before coming to this forum, but I'm glad that I did.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:09 pm
by Sloan
UNLEASH THE RIFFZ!

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:53 am
by brambleperro
Sloan wrote:UNLEASH THE RIFFZ!
Oh, I have. Today was band practice, but all we have to record with is a portable tape player. Maybe I'll post those if I find the time to convert them to mp3's.