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I just picked up my 72 Music Master

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:30 pm
by Richard
It used to be a Music Master. Now I guess it's a Duo-Sonic.

The body, neck, tuners, bridge, knobs, and control plate are original. The pickguard has been replaced, but it is an original 60's Mustang guard. The pickups are GFS strat pickups. I absolutely love the neck on this guitar.

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:38 pm
by aen
BONARRRRRRRRRR

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:08 pm
by robroe
thats hot shit.


get some covers from allparts and you are good to go

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:19 pm
by Justin J
white switches would be cool.
that looks like a fun guitar.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:22 pm
by Doog
Robroe covers and we're talkin' Bonertown.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:10 pm
by Richard
Thanks guys, and it's definitely getting some covers. I can't decide if I want to put white robroes, white swiches and white witch hats on it, or to just keep it like it is but with black robroes.

I'm also thinking about changing the pickguard, maybe an original tort or a mint repro?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:41 pm
by mellowlogic
Nice man!!

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:06 pm
by Richard
More pictures. Conclusion: Someone fucked the finish up, but otherwise it's very nice. The neck date is very hard to read but it says 5 MAY 72 B.

I tried to put the white robroes from my Mustang reissue on it, but this pickguard shrank a lot.

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:48 pm
by analogsystem
beautiful!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:14 pm
by Jagermeister
...uncovered pickups actually scare me because the windings can break so easily when installing/picking :shock:

gorgeous axe though :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:18 pm
by Mages
sweet guitar man!

hmmm, those pickup cavities look original. and I don't think they were still routing for both pickups in musicmaster bodies in '72. what I'm saying is, it looks like a duo-sonic body with a musicmaster neck.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:21 pm
by Jagermeister
iirc, if it was one of the ones where they were no longer routing for two pickups, it would have a bronco guard (or maybe here holes for one). Wasn't that switch made sometime in the middle of 72?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:23 pm
by Mages
oh it was 72 when they switched it? ok, so maybe I'm full of shit, haha

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:26 pm
by Jagermeister
ehh, according to this 76, so we're both kind of wrong :lol:

http://www.marcelroy.com/76_81/

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:31 pm
by Will
That's amazing - at least whoever modded it did a good job with no real damage.

Will you keep the two PUPs or put it back to original?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:34 pm
by Justin J
duo-sonics were discontinued by '69, so were they still routing the musicmaster for 2 pickups for a few years afterward?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:45 pm
by Mages
Jagermeister wrote:ehh, according to this 76, so we're both kind of wrong :lol:

http://www.marcelroy.com/76_81/
well, duo-sonics were discontinued in '69 and musicmasters in '82. it would be interesting if CBS kept routing bodies for both pickups and putting the shielding in there and everything for absolutely no reason. I don't think broncos ever used the same bodies. I would guess '69 is when they stopped using bodies routed for 2 pickups on the musicmaster. all marc elroy says is, "At some point during this era [68-76], Music Master bodies were no longer factory-routed for a bridge pickup (since the Duo-Sonic had been discontinued)."

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:48 pm
by Mages
the only reason, I can think of why CBS would do this is, they were always trying to use up surplus parts. maybe they still had duo-sonic bodies to use up for a while after they discontinued it. but 3 years later and they still had surplus?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:55 pm
by Richard
Jagermeister wrote:...uncovered pickups actually scare me because the windings can break so easily when installing/picking :shock:

gorgeous axe though :mrgreen:
They have covers on them, they're just the normal strat type covers.
DuoSonicBoy wrote:That's amazing - at least whoever modded it did a good job with no real damage.

Will you keep the two PUPs or put it back to original?
I'm definitely keeping two pickups in it, but I might try to find some original Mustang pickups for it.


Also, about the routes. Didn't Music Masters, Duo-Sonics and Mustangs share the same bodies aside from the trem routes? That would explain why it's routed for two pickups. Maybe they routed for pickups first, then routed some of them for the trem. I know I've seen lots of 70's MM bodies with bridge and neck routes.

I think the body and neck are original to eachother(at least that's what I was told). My understanding was that everything was original except the electronics, neck plate, and neck plate screws.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:08 pm
by Justin J
musicmasters and duo-sonics shared the same bodies when they were produced concurrently, that is from 1956 to 1969. the question here is whether or not musicmasters made after that period had both routes.
i know for a fact that the ones produced after 1975 only had a neck pickup route.
CBS era fender was shoddy enough that it certainly could have taken them years to update their templates. if they had already been making these guitars the same way since 1964, why change things?