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when did they introduce the f-keys
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:11 am
by robert(original)
i thought that the villager was introduced in the cbs era, and all of them that i have seen feature f-keys or tuner holes that are f-keys.
but i found this villager that has kluson style keys.
i know i have seen some 65's with both, but i think by about mid 66 all tuners were f-keys, can anyone verify this?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:14 am
by robert(original)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1960s-Fende ... dZViewItem
check this shit out!
its got a zero fret!!!!
this shit is weird!!!
i may just watch this really intensly.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:19 am
by Ninja Mike 808
Weeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiird...........,.,,,...
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:16 pm
by Justin J
yeah, i think mid to late '65 is when they introduced them. but you'll probably find klusons well into '66.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:21 pm
by BobArsecake
I thought it was '67, but the MG65 has them, so you're probably right, bubbles.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:32 pm
by Justin J
i think that by '67 you'll see "f" tuners almost exclusively. in '65 and '66 they used both "f" and kluson styles with no real consistency.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:34 pm
by BobArsecake
Yeah that's probably it.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:50 pm
by Mr Mustache
bubbles_horwitz wrote:i think that by '67 you'll see "f" tuners almost exclusively. in '65 and '66 they used both "f" and kluson styles with no real consistency.
this is true, for a while during '66 they were drilling for both F tuner holes and Kluson's, my Oct 66 jazzmaster neck is drilled for both but the f tuner holes have never had screws in them
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:57 pm
by rodvonbon
One of my '69 Mustangs has Kluson's and the other 3 from the same year have F style.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:16 am
by fuckoffsetguitars.com
my 66 mustang came with F tuners.
two broke so i replaced them with gotoh klusons.
![Image](http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/truthandshame/Fender%20Guitars/b9a40d90.jpg)
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:50 am
by robert(original)
thats crazy,
especially considering the 69 compstang thing.
cbs fender, sonofabitch!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:10 am
by BobArsecake
Mr Mustache wrote:bubbles_horwitz wrote:i think that by '67 you'll see "f" tuners almost exclusively. in '65 and '66 they used both "f" and kluson styles with no real consistency.
this is true, for a while during '66 they were drilling for both F tuner holes and Kluson's, my Oct 66 jazzmaster neck is drilled for both but the f tuner holes have never had screws in them
Agh, I hate the idea of that, the idiots. Though I suppose it's good/handy if you'd rather have one over the other.