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At Sam Ash the new Princeton Reverb Reissue .

I like everything but the price - It's the same $$$ as a Deluxe but less watts and less speaker, WTF?

The Princeton Recording is only $100 more and has more features AND recording outs.

DuoSonicBoy wrote:
The Princeton Recording is only $100 more and has more features AND recording outs.

And a cheapass attenuator that can only take "so much" before it heats up and farts out, so they say.

850 for these are just a ripoff. I can find a silverface princeton for a bit less than that.

you can probably get non-reverb brown- and blackface models for that price.
and frankly, i'm absolutely in love with the brownface princetons. i've said it before, those are pretty much my favorite amps ever.

snore.

You people don't know you're born. $850 is cheaper than any Fender amp over here, that's a lot cheaper than a Hot Rod Deluxe costs over here.

The legendary Fender Princeton® Reverb Amp of the 1960s was small, light, and moderately powered. Though intended for practice situations, the Princeton was capable of big tube tone, and Fender’s worldclass Reverb and Vibrato effects were the icing on the cake. From its inception ‘til today, countless guitarists have chosen it as their go-to studio amp, crafting signature sounds with a stomp box or two feeding a simple miked-up Princeton. Today, original Princeton Reverb amps are prized collectibles, and becoming harder to find.

The ’65 Princeton® Reverb Amp offers today’s players all of the great tone and dynamics of the original…in an affordable, roadworthy reissue. The robust 15-Watt platform is a wise choice for creating tube tone in a small space, and even provides enough output for small gigs and rehearsals.

The 22-watt (at 8 ohms) ’65 Deluxe Reverb amp is for rock, country or blues players who want a moderately powered amp they can crank up on the gig or in the studio. The fat, snappy guitar tones heard on many of our favorite recordings, from Memphis to Abbey Road, were made using the Deluxe amp.

Features include a pair of 6V6 Groove Tube™ output tubes, one 5AR4 rectifier tube, four 12AX7 preamp tubes, two 12AT7 tubes, one 12� 8-ohm Jensen® C-12K speaker, dual channels (normal and vibrato), tube-driven Fender reverb, tube vibrato, two-button footswitch for reverb and vibrato on-off, black textured vinyl covering and silver grille cloth.

Seems quite nice, except for the Groove Tubes obviously.

i'm loving that amp

Mike wrote:You people don't know you're born. $850 is cheaper than any Fender amp over here, that's a lot cheaper than a Hot Rod Deluxe costs over here.

The legendary Fender Princeton® Reverb Amp of the 1960s was small, light, and moderately powered. Though intended for practice situations, the Princeton was capable of big tube tone, and Fender’s worldclass Reverb and Vibrato effects were the icing on the cake. From its inception ‘til today, countless guitarists have chosen it as their go-to studio amp, crafting signature sounds with a stomp box or two feeding a simple miked-up Princeton. Today, original Princeton Reverb amps are prized collectibles, and becoming harder to find.

The ’65 Princeton® Reverb Amp offers today’s players all of the great tone and dynamics of the original…in an affordable, roadworthy reissue. The robust 15-Watt platform is a wise choice for creating tube tone in a small space, and even provides enough output for small gigs and rehearsals.

The 22-watt (at 8 ohms) ’65 Deluxe Reverb amp is for rock, country or blues players who want a moderately powered amp they can crank up on the gig or in the studio. The fat, snappy guitar tones heard on many of our favorite recordings, from Memphis to Abbey Road, were made using the Deluxe amp.

Features include a pair of 6V6 Groove Tube™ output tubes, one 5AR4 rectifier tube, four 12AX7 preamp tubes, two 12AT7 tubes, one 12� 8-ohm Jensen® C-12K speaker, dual channels (normal and vibrato), tube-driven Fender reverb, tube vibrato, two-button footswitch for reverb and vibrato on-off, black textured vinyl covering and silver grille cloth.

Seems quite nice, except for the Groove Tubes obviously.

Mike's right they pretty much stick it all the way in the but when comes to prices for gear over here too. if we buy from the U.S. we get slapped with huge fees from customs.

I shop on www.thomann.de but even they are a bit high.

fuck princetons. i wish they would reissue the harvard.

i would snatch that shit up quick.

they just reissued the champ, but they ruined it with digital effects!
why would you put digital effects into a tube amp?

holyCATS1415 wrote:they just reissued the champ, but they ruined it with digital effects!
why would you put digital effects into a tube amp?

'cause digital is the way of the future - there's still the Champ 600 for all the old timers (wish it had a tone control, though).

I can get silverface bassman heads for under 400, silverface champs for around 300-350, hot rods for 350-450, silverface twins for 500 and silverface princetons/deluxes for 600 or so. Why would I spend 850 on these? And, having played silverface bassmans, supers, and twins, they are tons better than the re-issues.

Now for you guys across the pond, you get screwed for the Fender gear same as we get screwed on Marshall and Orange.

DuoSonicBoy wrote:I like everything but the price - It's the same $$$ as a Deluxe but less watts and less speaker, WTF?

The Princeton Recording is only $100 more and has more features AND recording outs.

You are right, that recording amp looks outstanding!!!

mickie08 wrote:I can get silverface bassman heads for under 400, silverface champs for around 300-350, hot rods for 350-450, silverface twins for 500 and silverface princetons/deluxes for 600 or so. Why would I spend 850 on these? And, having played silverface bassmans, supers, and twins, they are tons better than the re-issues.

Now for you guys across the pond, you get screwed for the Fender gear same as we get screwed on Marshall and Orange.

eh?

AD30 head for $1519 including postage... divided by two give or take a bit, makes AD30 head for £719 plus shipping...

would much rather take a silverface fender than marshall or orange, any day of the week

On a trip to Toronto today.....At Long and Mcquade. (Huge Canadian Musicstore)


I tested a Princeton Reverb RI and let me tell ya, what an amp! 15 watts of sonic heaven, sparkling clean and Fucking thumpy lows, the speaker will probably need to be upgraded but at low volumes (Lower than 4) this amp sounds amazing. Pure Fender Blackface magic.

Also tried the Deluxe Reverb and it sounded like a piece of dog shit. Hums and no definition one on any of the tone controls, one muddy mofo!

Tried the Princeton recording and I think my first Peavey rage sounded better for 1/10th of the price. Really poor. Fucking amp farts out when you turn the volume up to like 3-4. Fender should just put a dog turd inside instead of the electronics and it would probably sound better, same thing goes for the Deluxe Reverb.

I will somehow try to score one of this sweet looking beasts. Need to think of ways of a way to come up with cash...maybe sell my body, nah needs too many sit ups. Crap, sux being broke!

I also got to play a Fender Custom Shop heavy Relic, this guitar had only a couple of spots of paint left. It was almost totally stripped. The neck has some added dings in the back for extra fake mojo, but u know what? Fuck that I want my neck with no distracting dings. Even if it looks beat up that neck needs to not have any dings. The neck/action wasnt even set up properly, you'd think that for a $2000 guitar you'd get a fucking wicked setup.

Needles to say my fucking wrist is killing me cuz of these fucking tendonitis/carpal tunnel shit, it was worth it tho'

I got to play a real vintage Princeton at a store yesterday. Only got the volume up to about 3.5, but it had a very nice tone. However, I'd have to say my Twin has a better, more complex clean tone. Of course, it lacks that biting Fender overdrive that people are playing Princeton's for in the first place. One of my favorite artists, Ryan Adams, uses two Princetons as his main studio/live rig.

Do yourselves a favor and buy a 70s Fender while they are still relatively cheap. They are point-to-point wired, rather than PCB like these reissues and can be modified into the blackface circuits.

From what I've heard Silver and Blackface Princetons are pretty much the same. No major mods in the circuitry, if that's true you wouldn't need to blackface it.

Yes old school amps are better, but out of the three I played yesterday the PR RI is the clear winner PCB or no PCB.

Even more reason.

tribi9 wrote:From what I've heard Silver and Blackface Princetons are pretty much the same. No major mods in the circuitry, if that's true you wouldn't need to blackface it.

Yes old school amps are better, but out of the three I played yesterday the PR RI is the clear winner PCB or no PCB.

a lot of early silverfaces have blackenedface circuits, thats what I look for 1968-70 all with aluminium drip lining. The price is really stupid even american, wait a year and get them cheap used cause those RI's have low re-sale value.