I used to think Elderly was them cools.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:42 am

THEN IS SAW THIS.
http://elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-14659.htm

Very Good Condition?
WHAT THE FUCK NO WAY. GET THE COCKS OUT OF YOUR EYES ELDERLY. FOR FUCKSSAKE.

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:49 am

They put EX+ or VGC for everything

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:55 am

relic'd

holyCATS1415 · Post by **holyCATS1415** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:07 am

that first sentence rules "VGC, except needs major work"

p.s. I bought a brand new car, except it was 30 years old

esteban · Post by **esteban** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:11 am

it's a nice color though.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:20 am

is this a joke

that thing fucking rules!!!!

no its a joke

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:05 am

hahaha wow!

I love those guitars though!

benwalker · Post by **benwalker** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:08 pm

townshended...

shame though. nice colour

James · Post by **James** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:28 pm

if it was a 196x it could almost be called "god condition other than the break" but for a 98 thats a fucking shambles

Ninja Mike 808 · Post by **Ninja Mike 808** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:07 pm

Ya know, I was looking for somethin' cooler than a barrel of monkeys...

Post by **Doog** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:33 am

"VGC except needs major work"

My grandpa is in VGC except he's dead.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:38 am

thats sad, really.
a 98 and its that bad,
the only reason thats excusable is if all those happened as once, like a bad car wreck, otherwise it was some bad emo bad, fuckin emo kids.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:05 pm

Maybe they really are elderly

analogsystem · Post by **analogsystem** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:54 pm

Was that a production model with the 3 firebird pickups?

A simple google search for "SG Deluxe" didn't yield much.

Very cool model if it was available.

James · Post by **James** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:45 am

I've read the explanations of your condition descriptions, and I'm completely baffled as to how this warrants a 'VGC'. The neck having been broken at both the headstock and the body end and the paint being covered in scratches, scraps and even just completely missing in places. Even the pickguard is cracked. The nly explanation I can think of is VGC is an abbreaviation for something other than 'Very Good Condition'. Perhaps there was an admin/copy paste error when listing the guitar?

James.

Hi James,

Thanks for the email. The "as-is" stuff has always been problematic for us. When we rate them like we do the other stuff, it all ends up in poor condition and languishes. What we have done is rate it like all the repairs were done. That's why we say "except for..." and list the needed repairs. Rating is subjective and that is why we disclose as much as possible in the written description itself and include detailed photos.

Thanks,
Tony

That's from (or at least from the account of) Anthony Marsala who says he is the General Manager at Elderly.

astro · Post by **astro** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:24 am

Tony wrote:What we have done is rate it like all the repairs were done.

What kind of nonsense is this? What's the point of providing a rating on a guitar's condition, if the rating is based on a possible future condition, as opposed to the actual, current condition?

I should start giving reports like this about the patients to the doctors at work...

"His red blood cell count, hemoglobin, and hematocrit are within normal range, but we're going to have to give him a transfusion because he's completely bled out"

or

"His heart is functioning perfectly and we're going to have to call the code team because it's not beating anymore"

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:19 am

astro wrote:
Tony wrote:What we have done is rate it like all the repairs were done.
What kind of nonsense is this? What's the point of providing a rating on a guitar's condition, if the rating is based on a possible future condition, as opposed to the actual, current condition?

I should start giving reports like this about the patients to the doctors at work...

"His red blood cell count, hemoglobin, and hematocrit are within normal range, but we're going to have to give him a transfusion because he's completely bled out"

or

"His heart is functioning perfectly and we're going to have to call the code team because it's not beating anymore"

You make a good point, however your examples don't really.... mmm how do I say these....

James · Post by **James** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:48 pm

I've edited the above post to include my email.

Rating the guitar on possible future condition is bullshit. It's like calling a fat bird skinny (but she will need to diet to get there) or me saying I need a shit, when in fact sometime before I sleep it's likely to happen.