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FYI Canucks... Nitro here + Neck Pictures...
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:40 pm
by tribi9
I just ordered some Clear Nitro from this place I've never heard of called Lee Valley. No colors, but, hey better than freaking nothing. (Tho' I know there is a place in Toronto, but they don't fill spray cans, I just can't think of the name right now, will dig through emails later)
I'm going to have to gloss up a neck see how this stuff works....
This place should pay me for advertising for them.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:37 am
by astro
You, sir, are my hero.
This link should be stickied in the "guitar resources" forum, because nitro is damn near impossible to find in Canuckistan.
Even though they just sell clear, I would imagine it's ok to spray this stuff as a clearcoat over a non-nitro colour coat. Better than nothing, and probably would appear indistinguishable from a total nitro job.
They claim their nitro doesn't yellow... I wonder if that's hype/marketing or truth?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:43 am
by tribi9
astro wrote:You, sir, are my hero.
This link should be stickied in the "guitar resources" forum, because nitro is damn near impossible to find in Canuckistan.
Even though they just sell clear, I would imagine it's ok to spray this stuff as a clearcoat over a non-nitro colour coat. Better than nothing, and probably would appear indistinguishable from a total nitro job.
They claim their nitro doesn't yellow... I wonder if that's hype/marketing or truth?
I think its got some additive that helps with the non yellowing. I also got a link for stains, will post it in a few minutes. Im going to order some amber stain, I want to pimp up my Squier neck on my Daphne Blue Squier. (Check her out in action in the "Solo" Sticky thread!
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:47 am
by Justin J
from what i understand about non-yellowing lacquer is that if it contains nitrocellulose (or cellulose nitrate as it says on the back of deft clear coat), it will yellow eventually. they put a uv-protecting element in it, but like regular sunblock, it will only last so long.
i'm not sure if it's available in canada, but duplicolor truck, van, and suv paint is available in auto part stores out here. it's acrylic lacquer like old fender color coats used to be and perfectly compatible with nitro. it also comes in a lot of cool colors.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:50 am
by tribi9
bubbles_horwitz wrote:from what i understand about non-yellowing lacquer is that if it contains nitrocellulose (or cellulose nitrate as it says on the back of deft clear coat), it will yellow eventually. they put a uv-protecting element in it, but like regular sunblock, it will only last so long.
i'm not sure if it's available in canada, but duplicolor truck, van, and suv paint is available in auto part stores out here. it's acrylic lacquer like old fender color coats used to be and perfectly compatible with nitro. it also comes in a lot of cool colors.
Yes it is, but Duplicolor stays soft for a long time (Im talking you can dent it with your fingernail 6 months later)
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:54 am
by Mages
I've noticed that dupli-color comes in two versions depending if your car is import or domestic. why do they do this? is the import clear different than the domestic clear? is it a different kind of paint?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:54 am
by Justin J
i've never had that trouble. they've got a spot-on desert sand, too.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:59 am
by tribi9
They do have some really cool colors, but I can get better paint at Napa. They do custom colors and pump it into spray cans.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:07 am
by astro
bubbles_horwitz wrote:from what i understand about non-yellowing lacquer is that if it contains nitrocellulose (or cellulose nitrate as it says on the back of deft clear coat), it will yellow eventually. they put a uv-protecting element in it, but like regular sunblock, it will only last so long.
i'm not sure if it's available in canada, but duplicolor truck, van, and suv paint is available in auto part stores out here. it's acrylic lacquer like old fender color coats used to be and perfectly compatible with nitro. it also comes in a lot of cool colors.
I would imagine that if I used this stuff to clearcoat a neck, I could just leave it in the sun for a few days to get my vintage tint?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:08 am
by tribi9
Here's a link for dyes and some other crap, Im going to get me some of that amber.
Fender 62 neck, here I come.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:10 am
by Mages
it's no trouble, I mean, I just got the domestic kind. I just wanna know, what the deal is.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:11 am
by Justin J
astro wrote:bubbles_horwitz wrote:from what i understand about non-yellowing lacquer is that if it contains nitrocellulose (or cellulose nitrate as it says on the back of deft clear coat), it will yellow eventually. they put a uv-protecting element in it, but like regular sunblock, it will only last so long.
i'm not sure if it's available in canada, but duplicolor truck, van, and suv paint is available in auto part stores out here. it's acrylic lacquer like old fender color coats used to be and perfectly compatible with nitro. it also comes in a lot of cool colors.
I would imagine that if I used this stuff to clearcoat a neck, I could just leave it in the sun for a few days to get my vintage tint?
that's what i'm doing right now. be careful though. i'm sure you've seen what the sun can do to the varnish on lawn furniture.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:13 am
by tribi9
bubbles_horwitz wrote:astro wrote:bubbles_horwitz wrote:from what i understand about non-yellowing lacquer is that if it contains nitrocellulose (or cellulose nitrate as it says on the back of deft clear coat), it will yellow eventually. they put a uv-protecting element in it, but like regular sunblock, it will only last so long.
i'm not sure if it's available in canada, but duplicolor truck, van, and suv paint is available in auto part stores out here. it's acrylic lacquer like old fender color coats used to be and perfectly compatible with nitro. it also comes in a lot of cool colors.
I would imagine that if I used this stuff to clearcoat a neck, I could just leave it in the sun for a few days to get my vintage tint?
that's what i'm doing right now. be careful though. i'm sure you've seen what the sun can do to the varnish on lawn furniture.
Crack it? Yellow it?
mage wrote:it's no trouble, I mean, I just got the domestic kind. I just wanna know, what the deal is.
Not sure, they only have one kind here.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:44 am
by Justin J
tribi9 wrote:Crack it? Yellow it?
yeah, it cracks and peels like sunburnt skin.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:35 am
by Ninja Mike 808
Don't ya'll have Montana spray paint? Really thick and a ridiculous amount of colors...
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:50 am
by astro
Ninja Mike 808 wrote:Don't ya'll have Montana spray paint? Really thick and a ridiculous amount of colors...
I've seen that stuff for sale... great colour choice, including many colours similar to the classic Fender custom colours. I've never used it though, and I don't know anybody who has. One of these days I'll take the paint for a test-drive on scrap wood to see how it performs.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:01 pm
by tribi9
astro wrote:Ninja Mike 808 wrote:Don't ya'll have Montana spray paint? Really thick and a ridiculous amount of colors...
I've seen that stuff for sale... great colour choice, including many colours similar to the classic Fender custom colours. I've never used it though, and I don't know anybody who has. One of these days I'll take the paint for a test-drive on scrap wood to see how it performs.
I've never seen it, Where do u get it Astro?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:47 pm
by Mages
Ninja Mike 808 wrote:Don't ya'll have Montana spray paint? Really thick and a ridiculous amount of colors...
that's acrylic too. so if you're worried about the whole "fingernail dent" thing, it would be the same. but honestly, I have not had that problem (with dupli-color). you must have to lay it down really thick to get it soft like that.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:27 pm
by astro
tribi9 wrote:astro wrote:Ninja Mike 808 wrote:Don't ya'll have Montana spray paint? Really thick and a ridiculous amount of colors...
I've seen that stuff for sale... great colour choice, including many colours similar to the classic Fender custom colours. I've never used it though, and I don't know anybody who has. One of these days I'll take the paint for a test-drive on scrap wood to see how it performs.
I've never seen it, Where do u get it Astro?
I found it at an art supply store. I believe it's marketed to graffiti artists, for spraying on walls. Eventually I'll get a can and test it out. They have something like 250 different colours available, pretty much any shade you can imagine. They're all opaque colours, and the only metallics are silver and gold.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:31 pm
by astro
Here's a link to some of the colours you can get in Montana spray paint:
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