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Ok, So i'm looking to make some changes to my rig. I play a Fender Coronado II, Silvertone 1457 but today i was stunned to see a 1975 les paul special for $999.99 Canadian dollars. (not all original but pretty original) I wanna get it so bad but unfortunetly im pretty low on cash so i gotta sell one of my guitars which will most likely be my coronado :( :(. That's the first issue. The Les Paul Special (which is supposed to have 2 p 90s) has a humbucker at the bridge and a noiseless p 90 on the neck however it comes with the original pickups (and they didnt cut through the body to put the humbucker in). It could basically go back to it's original condition pretty easily. That's my first issue...

I also wanted to get a Bigsby for my Silvertone 1457 http://www.vintagesilvertones.com/guita ... o_2005.jpg

Similar to what a telecaster bigsby looks like. The problem is that i've never really seen a Dano with a Bigsby, do you guys think it would be a good combo? I don't wanna mess it up for no reason cuz it is vintage and sounds damn amazing.
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The Les Paul is probably not a bad idea. It's kind of a big change from what you have though.

As for the Bigsby... I personally wouldn't bother with it. No need to mess up your guitar
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I wouldn't do it - you already have an awesome and very unique setup. If you really want a LPS, you can find a used newer one for less and it will probably be better. 70s LPs tend to be variable at best (not little stuff either - things like improper fret placement are common). A newer one might not have the mojo, but it would be a much better instrument.

I don't think you could reasonably put a bigsby on a 1457. The only solid wood on the body is a small piece directly under the bridge, so you'd have nothing to screw a surface-mount unit in to. You also don't have enough room behind the bridge for a hollowbody-style unit. It would mess up a pretty valuable guitar - probably crack the top under tension.

In short, don't mess with the great stuff you have now. A newer Gibson LPS could be had for ~$700, and you could even put a bigsby on it if you want.
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DuoSonicBoy wrote:I wouldn't do it - you already have an awesome and very unique setup. If you really want a LPS, you can find a used newer one for less and it will probably be better. 70s LPs tend to be variable at best (not little stuff either - things like improper fret placement are common). A newer one might not have the mojo, but it would be a much better instrument.

I don't think you could reasonably put a bigsby on a 1457. The only solid wood on the body is a small piece directly under the bridge, so you'd have nothing to screw a surface-mount unit in to. You also don't have enough room behind the bridge for a hollowbody-style unit. It would mess up a pretty valuable guitar - probably crack the top under tension.

In short, don't mess with the great stuff you have now. A newer Gibson LPS could be had for ~$700, and you could even put a bigsby on it if you want.
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Just to clarify, I want to get a les paul special because i find the guitars i have now arent that great with fuzz and i'm sorta getting into vintage style fuzzes. I'd hate to part with my coronado, and I wouldn't do it for just any reason. The Silvertone 1457 just, I think, has more of a tone that i'm looking for but don't get me wrong, the coronado is a great guitar for clean and dirty tones. As for putting on a bigsby on my silvertone 1457, it might not happen because i dont think the tuners will be strong enough to keep up and as others said, will be hard to get done. However, I'm still thinking that a bigsby will be really cool and work really well with the natural tone of the guitar.
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A Bigsby would devalue and ruin a guitar which has stayed largely original and unraped for forty years. Why not buy a new one and assfuck that?
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soma89 wrote:Just to clarify, I want to get a les paul special because i find the guitars i have now arent that great with fuzz and i'm sorta getting into vintage style fuzzes. I'd hate to part with my coronado, and I wouldn't do it for just any reason. The Silvertone 1457 just, I think, has more of a tone that i'm looking for but don't get me wrong, the coronado is a great guitar for clean and dirty tones. As for putting on a bigsby on my silvertone 1457, it might not happen because i dont think the tuners will be strong enough to keep up and as others said, will be hard to get done. However, I'm still thinking that a bigsby will be really cool and work really well with the natural tone of the guitar.
thats interesting. Are these the ones with P90 single coils? In my experience, single coil guitars have always sound better with germanium and vintage style fuzzes than humbuckers. I also agree with timhulio on just getting a newer model to bigsbify.
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I like the idea of the bigsby on a Silvertone, but if it's not possible, then fuck it, and keep dreaming.

As far as Les Pauls go, my friend, you should just wait til you have enough money to buy it. Coronados are sweet, and you love it. I noticed, that getting rid of a great guitar for another great guitar will still leave a hole in your heart. It's like your wife dying during birth, you do have a kid, but these things cannot be substitutes for each other.
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Ninja Mike 808 wrote: It's like your wife dying during birth, you do have a kid, but these things cannot be substitutes for each other.
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serfx wrote:
Ninja Mike 808 wrote: It's like your wife dying during birth, you do have a kid, but these things cannot be substitutes for each other.
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=516099

If you really want a bigsby on a 1457, get a reissue and go nuts - they're nicely made and have better tuners and such.

Les Pauls are plentiful on the vintage and used market - save your pennies and get something really good. As an alternative, you could check out the PRS SE Soapbar (also available as a semi-hollow). They're less expensive then the Gibson and have extremely good build quality.
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Sublimedo wrote:
soma89 wrote:Just to clarify, I want to get a les paul special because i find the guitars i have now arent that great with fuzz and i'm sorta getting into vintage style fuzzes. I'd hate to part with my coronado, and I wouldn't do it for just any reason. The Silvertone 1457 just, I think, has more of a tone that i'm looking for but don't get me wrong, the coronado is a great guitar for clean and dirty tones. As for putting on a bigsby on my silvertone 1457, it might not happen because i dont think the tuners will be strong enough to keep up and as others said, will be hard to get done. However, I'm still thinking that a bigsby will be really cool and work really well with the natural tone of the guitar.
thats interesting. Are these the ones with P90 single coils? In my experience, single coil guitars have always sound better with germanium and vintage style fuzzes than humbuckers. I also agree with timhulio on just getting a newer model to bigsbify.
Yup, it comes with a humbucker at the bridge and a noiseless p90 on the neck but it also comes with the original pickups which are 2 gibson p90s. I'm definetly gunna put them on as quick as possible if i get it and maybe sell the other pickups.
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Fuzzes work at best with singles in my opinion not buckers. Not sure about P90s though.
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You've got some great guitars.. really.. About the bigsby - dont fuck up such a nice guitar, better get the dano reissue to fulfill Your dream.
And dont sell that Coronado, just get a newer Gibson.. cause really as I said, You've got some nice guitars (I could only dream about)..
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SHITT all you guys telling me to keep my coronado are making me confused to death. I mean i like my coro but i tried out the gibson les paul special and it's just more of what im looking for right now tonewise. Also whatever the Coro does, my Silvertone 1457 does just a tad better. If i sell me coro and buy the les paul special i hope i don't regret it. If i do, i'll buy another one some day when i'm more financially stable. But i cant miss this chance, they're selling a 75' Les paul special which could easily be put back together to its original form for only 1000$ CAN.
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soma89 wrote:SHITT all you guys telling me to keep my coronado are making me confused to death. I mean i like my coro but i tried out the gibson les paul special and it's just more of what im looking for right now tonewise. Also whatever the Coro does, my Silvertone 1457 does just a tad better. If i sell me coro and buy the les paul special i hope i don't regret it. If i do, i'll buy another one some day when i'm more financially stable. But i cant miss this chance, they're selling a 75' Les paul special which could easily be put back together to its original form for only 1000$ CAN.
I dunno why you want a vintage Les Paul. I mean, I would rather get a new one (even a knock of) and just replace the pups. Honestly, Les Pauls aren't that different from each other...

Do what you want, though, I support this add!
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Post by Will »

If you decide to sell the Coro, list it in the classifieds here first. I know I'd go for it if I had the cash.
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Soma, are you selling the Coronado on Kijiji TO?
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tribi9 wrote:Soma, are you selling the Coronado on Kijiji TO?
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I don't want to sound like your Dad here but putting a bigsby on that silvertone is going to kill the value, they are collectors items.