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I didn't burn one of my nutz.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:30 pm
by turtle
I forgot to take pictures of the process.
The new wilkinson roller nut was 3/16 and the factory one is 2/16
So I just used the existing nut as a guide and cut on the tuning peg side with a back saw.
The nut just popped out on the final stroke, (surely some have heard that before)
I then filed the groove down evenly
Put a dab of liquid nails
Slid in the nut and strung it up.

Nothing burned!

So my relic is now pretty much done.

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the nut works amazing....great for bending...can really feel a difference

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:46 pm
by turtle
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these are the pickups that went in....
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( www.manliusguitar.com )
pickups have AMAZING tone...lot's of bell and quack...the middle is NOT reverse wound

Relic 50's Vintage Handwound Stratocaster Single Coil Pickups! Includes matching Relic'd knobs, switch tip, and trem arm tip!
Made to exacting vintage specs, with a few modern upgrades for optimum tone!

Hand Bevelled AlNiCo 5 magnets, aged and rusted to look 50 years old!
Non RWRP middle pickup for classic quack in 2/4 position.
Flat stagger magnets for better string to string response!
Coil wire is tapped off for added durability for years of use!
Relic'd covers made to look like old Bakelite covers I have examined! Worn edges with a bit of grime!
Includes matching Relic'd knobs, switch tip, and trem arm tip!
Includes aged and rusted height screws, and tubing. Even the white lead wire is relic'd!


Whether or not hand wound has anything to do with it just doesn't matter to me that is not why I bought them...I bought them becuse of the tone description. I wanted the old "Quack" that has been lost on strats for years....in particular in the 2 and 4 spots.

then there is the roller nut and trem which is fantastic...vintage looking quick lock wilkinson tuners

the pickguard I did with sandpaper and shoe polish
all the new gold was rolled for an hour in a pail with rocks..(thanks mage)
all dings were conrete stoops...screw drivers pliers and the like

I love this guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:05 pm
by Ninja Mike 808
Cool.

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:24 am
by Haze
shit's epic, i wanna hear those pickups on that guitar :D
it's great that you found what you're looking for, that doesn't happen all that often
and kudos for making a strat a strat, if you know what im sayin

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:44 pm
by tribi9
Mmmmmm.....


IMHO the wear on the body and the pickguard look a bit overdone. You got entire chunks of paint missing on that thing. The pickguard looks scratched as opposed to aged. Again its just my opinion and since It's not about what I like but about what you like feel free to tell me where to go.


Pickups I'm sure sound great, would love to hear them.

Good job with the aging of the hardware.

Enjoy.

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:57 pm
by Mike
I'm not a fan of forced relicing. In fact the only guitar I like any artifical relicing on is the Joe Strummer Telecaster.

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And that's because the guitar is still cheap.

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:10 pm
by tribi9
I'm kinda undecided on the Joe Strummer... Not sure if like it or not. I'm just not into signature guitars tho'

Did Joe's Tele really look like that?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:18 pm
by Mike
tribi9 wrote:Did Joe's Tele really look like that?
Yes.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:34 pm
by Ninja Mike 808
To make relicing seem real is hard... I would think that by just gigging ridiculously with it, and possibly framptonizing it would be the most effective ways... But, I like that people have realized that paint doesn't matter.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:54 am
by turtle
Ninja Mike 808 wrote:To make relicing seem real is hard... I would think that by just gigging ridiculously with it, and possibly framptonizing it would be the most effective ways... But, I like that people have realized that paint doesn't matter.
One of the coolest things for me is not having to be careful with the guitar. It's liberating for sure.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:21 am
by turtle
Haze wrote:shit's epic, i wanna hear those pickups on that guitar :D
it's great that you found what you're looking for, that doesn't happen all that often
and kudos for making a strat a strat, if you know what im sayin
yeah thanks...........once I figure out how to play through I'll up load something.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:55 am
by Mages
may I make a suggestion? the finish looks shiny and new except for the gashes in the finish. you need to wet sand with like 2000 grit over the whole body so it'll be less shiny and more like the nicks and scrapes aren't so fresh.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:00 pm
by turtle
mage wrote:may I make a suggestion? the finish looks shiny and new except for the gashes in the finish. you need to wet sand with like 2000 grit over the whole body so it'll be less shiny and more like the nicks and scrapes aren't so fresh.
Thanks, I'll do that. that has been the hardest thing is getting past the finish...wherever you start once rubbed it's just like the unfinished side of plexi-glass

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:03 pm
by Mages

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:20 am
by iCEByTes
amazing dude , reliced stuff are the beast :D

Rory Gallagher strato 62´´ is what i call extreme relic

http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FCRG.htm

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:41 am
by turtle
Thanks Iceman

Mage...the local store only 600, tried it ina spot for the heck of it.

I found and ordered off eBay, some 2000 and 2400 and requested 3000.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:14 am
by tribi9
I could only find up to 2000 locally and yes that still leaves some fine scratches (Even after using Scratch X and buffing). I should order some higher grit myself, let me know how it works out for you.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:25 am
by Mages
you could do 600. just you'd need to work your way back up, like 1000, 1500, 2000 or something.

you have to go to a paint store. or a store that has wood finishing kind of stuff. another option, get a medium cut polish kind of stuff. might be able to find that at an auto store.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:39 am
by tribi9
I think you should go 1500 and up. If you dont like it then go 1000 and up and so on... Start higher cuz if you start too low you and you don't like it, there's no coming back.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:08 am
by Mages
while I agree with you starting high is good, but you can always come back. you just gotta work your way all the way back up to polish.