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Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder - Q's regarding
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:06 am
by othomas2
Didn't know whether to place this in the jag section or here... but yeah it's to do with a jag with an SD Quarter Pounder fitted to the bridge.
I changed from the stock pickup hoping to remove microphonic feedback... but this isn't the case... still evident on occasions on high tone settings and high gain... at reasonable volumes... I was hoping it would be able to handle this...
so my question is : are these pickups already wax potted from stock ? and would I gain any benefit from wax potting again whatever the answer ?
I've also heard about about lacquering pickups... is this from the spray can lacquer ?
Basically would like to deal with this issue... I've also been recommended to stuff tissue in and around the pickup... somethin' you would recommend ?? Is the jaguar claw causing a prob perhaps ??
I've done some reading, but would like to get some info and discuss here where there is some knowledge of fenders and jags etc...
any help would be appreciated...
thanks
Owen
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:51 am
by Thom
Yeah, I had one in the bridge of my jag and it squealed like a bitch still.
Got rid of it in the end. Sorry, not much help.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:22 pm
by othomas2
How did you get rid of it lamp ?
thanks
O
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:37 pm
by Doog
I think he means he sold it, lolz.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:42 pm
by Mike
haha just throw it out of the window.
GONE.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:45 pm
by Doog
LOOK MA, NO MORE SQUEALS!
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:18 pm
by NickS
It may be worth packing some rubber foam into the cavity to damp the vibration of the pickup.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:31 pm
by Mages
I don't really know too much about it. but I think it's pretty likely that they are not wax potted stock. I've heard a little bit (was it bubbles that mentioned this?) that wax potting makes the pickup sound different. may or not be a bad thing, I have no idea. also, I don't think it is the claw, since the purpose of it is to shield the pickup, so I would think that would make it feedback less.
hopefully someone who knows more about jag pickups can help a little better.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:57 pm
by othomas2
Thanks for your advice so far
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Got a rehearsal tomorrow so I can see how bad it is then...
Doog wrote:I think he means he sold it, lolz.
oh right...
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:03 pm
by Thom
Doog wrote:I think he means he sold it, lolz.
Lol yeah I did. Didn't really get on with it, but i know others love them (robroe has a few).
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:00 pm
by Hurb
any part of a pickups can cause microphonic feedback. I.E check every bit of it case, screws, claw, if these wobble or have any movement then they could cause feedbacks.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:15 pm
by r40f
why do you want to get rid of feedback?
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:44 pm
by James
r40f wrote:why do you want to get rid of feedback?
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microphonic feedback
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:09 pm
by othomas2
Thanks for your help people... you've given me a few things to ponder on
O
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:11 am
by Doog
Re: Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder - Q's regarding
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:22 am
by aphasiac
othomas2 wrote:Didn't know whether to place this in the jag section or here... but yeah it's to do with a jag with an SD Quarter Pounder fitted to the bridge.
I changed from the stock pickup hoping to remove microphonic feedback... but this isn't the case... still evident on occasions on high tone settings and high gain... at reasonable volumes... I was hoping it would be able to handle this...
so my question is : are these pickups already wax potted from stock ? and would I gain any benefit from wax potting again whatever the answer ?
Hey Owen, did you buy the pickup off me? I think we met up in Shep Bush right??
Anyway first of all the quarter pounders are NOT wax potted as they don't come come with a cover. SD claim they are "vaccum potted" whatever that means.
By all reports, the first thing you should do is remove the jaguar claw. I've found quite a few reports on the net about them being microphonic and these have been fixed by removing the claw; i dont think it'll affect the sound at all, so worth a go.
If that doesn't help, you can wax pot it yourself or get a london guitar tech to do it - think they charge 10-20 quid. let us know how it goes!
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:39 pm
by Fran
Why remove the claw? What a load of crap. It could not cause microphonic feedback in any way, it is caused by cavitys inbetween the windings, bobbin and sometimes the cover.
And vacuum potted should be enough, its used on a lot of humbuckers nowadays without any problems whatsoever.
Its a single coil. They are not designed for high gain and the Jaguars electronics certainly dont help, 1meg pots>single coils>high gain= asking for trouble. Too much treble. A Strats pots are lower value and it does help the situation a bit more.
I've wax potted single coils before and they still scream at high gain, dont get me wrong though, it does help a little in moderation. Lacquer and wrapping the pup in tissue sounds ridiculous to me but go ahead and try it if you want.
Owen... like i said on another forum, your best bet is a single coil size humbucker.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:42 pm
by Mike
I think not sitting in your bedroom would actually help. If you're in an actual band situation and not being a PUSSY then your pickups are:
a) not facing your amp
and
b) are further away.
c) Get on with it.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:20 pm
by Fran
Some good advice there actually, i found standing at different angles with my back to a cranked JCM 2000 made a big difference. You have to be realistic with the gain levels as well, and use more bass control. Them 1meg pots are fucking shite with singles when using high gain. Alternatively, Fuzz pedals have always worked better with singles than straight distortion.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:21 pm
by Mike
Fran wrote:You have to be realistic with the gain levels as well, and use more bass control.
True words. People use too much gain to cover up shit playing.