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12 Gauge Strings on 24" Scale
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:41 am
by rrrob9
Anyone use these? I'm thinking of moving up a gauge to improve sustain, but concerned that it won't make much difference.
She sounds a bit 'plinky' and banjo-like for me, will 12s fix this or is it just inherent in short scale Fenders? Also, does the tension compare to 11s on a full scale?
Thanks
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:01 pm
by benecol
I used to use 12's on my jag, and I use 11's on my Jazzmaster and Tele; feels about the same. Not sure about the plinkiness, mind.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:22 pm
by Will
It's part of the shortscale charm. I don't think going up a gauge will help sustain at all, but you should do it anyway to be manland.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:40 pm
by rrrob9
Must admit I'm really digging teh playability of lighter strings. Manland can wait if it has to.
So I'm guessing on a shorter neck you need more string tension to get the same sustain? Which means in theory we could all play 28" scale, use 7's and do ridiculous quadrouple tone bends that last for days.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:45 pm
by James
The string tension is relative to the scale length as well as the string guage. That's why people say that one guage heavier generally feels the same on Gibson scale (24.75") as the lighter guage does on Fender scale (25.5")
7s on a scale that long will probably feel like 9s or 10s on a standard scale. But you'll dock yourself so many manland points for buyig 7s that you may as well just hang up your guitar playing boots forever.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:02 pm
by rrrob9
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:24 pm
by More Cowbell
Robroe puts 13's on all his shit.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:36 pm
by Doog
The dude flosses with flatwounds.
I think some shortscales just sound plinkyplonky due their construction- heavier strings will up the beef a little bit, but not gonna turn it into a LP or something.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:50 pm
by rrrob9
Angus Young, 9 gauge strings:
Stevie Ray Vaughn, 13 gauge strings:
Moar to do with size of hands then manliness.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:56 pm
by rrrob9
Doog wrote:I think some shortscales just sound plinkyplonky due their construction
Ah yes, the neck socket is a pretty loose fit. Didn't think of that.
Looks like I'll have just have to play moar notes.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:17 pm
by aen
You know, I guess I never really noticed any of the "plinkys" but it might just be my playing style, which is to say: HARD.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:21 pm
by Pens
Hit harder.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:23 pm
by aen
I did, but thent he strigns flew off.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:43 pm
by benecol
rrrob9 wrote:Angus Young, 9 gauge strings:
Stevie Ray Vaughn, 13 gauge strings:
Moar to do with size of hands then manliness.
But: size of hands is to do with manliness.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:47 pm
by rrrob9
But: Angus Young
![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
is moar manner than Stevie Ray Vaughn
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:10 pm
by Pens
rrrob9 wrote:But: Angus Young
![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
is moar manner than Stevie Ray Vaughn
FAIL
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:03 pm
by aphasiac
meh, I use 8's and i'm all man.
It's not the thickness of the strings or the length of the neck; it's what you do with it that counts
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:22 pm
by Pens
I just use 11's on all of my electrics, and 13's on my acoustic. Works fine for me.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:53 pm
by BobArsecake
I used 9s for my Telecaster, 10s for everything else, apart from the 11s on my Jag-Stang 'cause it's set up perfectly for them, and I've not had reason to change them for ages 'cause I don't really play it :s Though Cowbell got me some of those crazy Jazz wound 3rd things that I'm going to try on my Jaguar I think :D
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:57 pm
by Pens
BobArsecake wrote:I used 9s for my Telecaster, 10s for everything else, apart from the 11s on my Jag-Stang 'cause it's set up perfectly for them, and I've not had reason to change them for ages 'cause I don't really play it :s Though Cowbell got me some of those crazy Jazz wound 3rd things that I'm going to try on my Jaguar I think
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
I use the wound G 11's on my electrics, to my ears they sound way better than a plain 3rd. In fact, I recently had to buy a pack of plain 3rd 11's a few months back because they were out of the wound 3rds, and I cannot get that guitar to sound right at all.